Why is being compassionate seen as beta behaviour by the current dominant culture when it's historically been a...

The current dominant western culture is secular. One must therefore convince people of something on secular grounds.
But from what I can tell by your post, the answer is "nothing".

because compassion, empathy and such leaves you vulnerable to people ready to take advantage of you, undoing all that good will and flipping it upside down into something even more nefarious.

suffer growing up in beast system

try to help the RL zoomers that come to me so they dont have to suffer like I did

they are completely histrionic attention seekers who dont actually want to solve their problems

literally Anon Babble tier shit like "how do I get a qt 3.14 virgin tradwife

refuse all advice, always default to jewish gestalt solution, eg dating apps

presented with solution on a silver tray they just go "hmmm no"

every time they are in a good mood all they do is shit on everyone and be complete cunts

moral exhaustion.exe

???

profit?

No. It's never been a valued trait. RESTRAINT is a valued trait. Compassion is for stay-at-home mothers. A man must be willing to be ruthless when it benefits him. All guilt is conditioned into you by a manipulative system that itself knows to disregard it.

Because the current crop of those demanding compassion neither need nor appreciate it. Compassion is seen as weakness, first and foremost by the people who receive it... Those same people - were the roles reversed - would drive their boots into anyone asking for compassion

because the passion is misplaced

I have been compassionate and helpful towards my community and others for over 30 years. Every job I took was for the gain of people, met their needs and exceeded their expectations.
Paid lots of taxes on top of it.
When I suddenly needed help, they spit in my face and said "deal with it, you won't get shit".

Next week I will be honorable enough to declare war on the community to the faces of those in charge unlike they did with me. As nice as I was, I will tripple down on being a nuisance and force of destruction.

Fuck you all, let's get it done

Because we currently live in an era where people's compassions have been exploited and weaponized against them by groups with agendas for power and privilege.
Everything you've seen for the past 2 decades.

Unchecked immigration

Dei

Tranny nonsense

BLM

Covid lockdowns

And I can go on...but one root thing is that they were allowed to happen because enough of the common person's compassion could be manipulated to support this shit.
The right wing is making some moderate wins/gains because they've recently started to shrug off that compassion which was keeping them compromising with the left.

Your post's purpose is entirely to spark a religious argument and not to be actually convinced of anything. Morality is grounded in reason, virtue and happiness,moral excellence being the path to a fullfilling life. The only difference between you and a monkey is that you do not kill people for a loaf of bread over mild hunger, yet you fail to realize that's the only thing that makes you human, not a creature of instinct.

your peace of mind and security are dependent on your own self not on people outside of you

Don't confuse compassion with useless eaters trying to steal from those that work hard. Don't force me to do charity for parasites, that isn't considered compassion either.

This
Compassion is good if people reciprocate, but they become selfish, entitled and take advantage of your kindness

Compassion is for pussies

Oh my God bro like I'm here for you bro

Shut up faggot lmao

It is compassionate to make people suffer enough so that they don't have to rely on the compassion of others to make the world a better place

While compassion is a virtuous trait, too much compassion and passivity allows vermin like jews and niggers to take advantage of you, you have to know when to excercise restraint and when to genocide.

more like this really, OP identifies as a woman even though he is a man and a Canadian even though he is Indian, this shapes his beliefs and perspectives

Gigachad does not suffer. He simply exists. He also does not have the capacity to sense or understand the mental state of others. In that sense Gigachad is more like an animal than a human.

Because for a lot of people "compassion" simply means "you doing what I tell you to do because of some perceived historical wrong that permits me to send you on a guilt trip that is for my own personal benefit, and explicitly not for the benefit of any oppressed or troubled group I'm claiming that I belong to."

being compassionate also applies to not being a dick or inconsiderate. the least compassionate people preaching about what is compassion and how it is supposedly evil is funny in the eyes of people who have sense and who aren't delusional.

animals dont suffer

if you only knew how bad things really are

Jew behavior and fefail behavior are identical.

What is a freier for 600 Alex?

Understand that and you understand why all interactions in jewish gynocentric s()yciety are transactional.

In my experience those who have suffered are more compassionate

You shouldn't be compassionate towards people that want to hurt you.

I suffered therefore I will make everyone involved regret it, everyone involved happens to be everyone

Ftfy

You are bringing down compassion because of your country's political situation, a society needs at least some level of trust to function. I don't care if you dislike niggers, you need to at least put your trust and compassion on your race and people or nothing will work. I'm telling you this because my country has become a shithole where everyone tries to take advantage of each other no matter how small, where compassion and trust are not found. From the highest levels of the lowest, everything has been corrupted and this is an horrible place to live in.

Everyone relies on each others compassion otherwise the world would be a free for all

I dont want anything to function though. I want everything to go down and everyone suffer.

It's difficult to actually help people and maintain yourself, so people write you off as a sucker for doing so.
And partly it's because treachery lurks so shallow in the hearts of man.

Precisely.
Life IS suffering, so decisions should be made on grounds apart from marginal differences in levels of suffering.

Bro this happens so little of times and still compassion should be promoted unlike what Anon Babble does

It is a free for all. Demands for compassion is parasitism.

Truth. You can be compassionate but just don't waste it on the wrong people.

kill yourself, leafnigger

because that

libshit believe in the superhero movie morality of the "just world", so if snowflake suffered while being as just and moral as he can concieve, he finds it intolerable that others, necessarily imperfect because they have not his exact morality, should escape the punishment he had to endure
because it would prove his own playthrough in life has way less karmic significance than he believed it had

it's the jews

Being forced to be compassionate, by a shit government, has pretty much beaten compassion out of many decent people. I'm sick of paying for NEETS, 3rd world savages, parasite countries, slutbortions, drug rehab, fat rehab and crazy rehab - I hope they all fucking starve.

unlike what Anon Babble does

this ain't a hugbox, bitch.

Yet whites are the ones who rape and kill whenever you refuse to worship the gay Jew in panties

Can a race be more retarded? Imagine taking over the world and then immediately getting OKHO’d by a bunch of dysgenic desert retards

Because modern perception of masculinity has been distorted to being the biggest cunt.

Taking steroids, committing crimes, whoring around, getting money = "Alpha"

I’m DONE with compassion

w-wait show me compassion I’m being genocided

Kwab

Pay me NEET tribute slave.

Yes but after a certain point if someone takes the piss you have to stand your ground. Even if you forgive them, that does not mean they shouldn't face consequences for wronging you.

If that's the case then society is impossible

whites are the ones who rape and kill whenever you refuse to worship the gay Jew in panties

Islam wouldn't even exist if whites were half as ruthless with christianity as you make them out to be.

Good.

why is being compassionate seen as beta behaviour

Because we've been quietly observing how this works for 60+ years, and you people are clearly mentally fucked and destructive to both yourselves and even life on Earth as a whole.

Compassion and empathy is only worth something if it is directed towards your family friends and your people. Foreigners and enemies can fuck off they deserve nothing. They can die all i care for. Unfortunately many white people believe this lie that everyone deserves compassion and empathy. This was done as a deliberate psyop to make white people more susceptible to accept the introduction of enemies in their own home countries. Migrants are all tolerated and accepted because the average white person believes that upholding such values will help society. In reality such a thing only works in a homogeneous ethnically united society. Non whites have no empathy towards us they hate us even. The reason why white people in the past were so successful at conquering the world is because they knew that these people don't deserve empathy. That they are violent savages that wouldn't hesitate to cut your heart out and sacrifice you to some pagan idols.

helping is two-fold. One party is the helper and the other party, the helpee, must usually honor the helper's sacrifice by respecting their effort.
It starts with a lack of honor (thanks for all the free shit, retard!) and then a lack of sacrifice (why would I help these assholes?) and finally a lack of effort (back in my day, bootstraps, get a job etc etc)

Morality is reserved for your own.

That's the simplistic approach, but the goal of reducing injustice and harm in society is that it brings about a greater peace. The right wing seeks causes of injustices from fabricated sources that ultimately lead to more injustice and harm.

society is a fucked concept we live under dominion not social contract.
as far as I can tell people only bond over shared trauma; naive relationships are based on resentment/competition.

Because being compassionate only gets you shit on. Every girl i dated before my wife used me and abused me. Every person I tried to help used and abused me. Its led to our country being flooded with retarded jeets stealing all of our jobs and homes and wealth and keeping our wages down and fucking everyone over and thats not even digging into their personal behaviour.
Be compassionate with those that deserve it and everyone else can go fuck themselves.

Otherwise

Huetard.

Only to personality disordered creatures (psychopathy, sociopathy, narcissism, machivellianism) sick and embarrassing behaviour is natural.

I'm sick of paying for NEETS, 3rd world savages, parasite countries, slutbortions, drug rehab, fat rehab and crazy rehab

Because that's precisely what Fox News or [insert right wing extremism site here] instructed you to be terrified of.

mutt has to reduce everything to blue shabbos goy vs red shabbos goy

I dont bond with anyone. Anyone who demands I act like we are bonded is going to suffer for manipulation attempt.

Anon, I like you and you are my friend. The views you are expressing are unconventional. It takes courage to break with tradition and most people are afraid.

I think you forgot how muslims humiliated whites for centuries after all those failed crusades

people only bond over shared trauma

Checked

The only thing you can control is your actions. So when someone wrongs you you shouldn't wrong them because you both inhabate the world with other agents When you help others you are helping yourself by reducing the amount of bad actions taking place on the earth instead of adding to them.
Now if you can prove someone did something illegal getting justice via the legal system is warranted and can be done without malicious actions. Is someone just slights you, just let it go.

That's talking about if an eye for an eye is a moral thing to do, and I have no contributions towards that argument that is not religious.

I think you forgot europeans have held absolute power over the entire world for 2 centuries and could have killed every muslim in the world if they so wished. The inequality in technology of the victorian era meant they could do whatever they want, they chose not to do so.

Every other thread here can be summed up as:

Wah my life is shit. Women hate me. Show you understand my plight

The in the same breath:

Compassion is ghey

Most straight men on 4chin unselfaware NPCs

did the seal die?

An eye for an eye? No. All the lives involved to make the tiniest of slights against me possible.

people rewarded by life and others tend to give back

Wowe such profound

Compassion is the willingness to abandon a power differential you have with another person. Its a fundamental slider in the design of society, where on one end you have anarchism and the other a communist state. The problem in both scenarios is that if an individual actor refuses to partake in compassion, then the interactions between that individual and everyone else are fundamentally not compassionate. If left unchecked, the uncompassionate individual or group gains power if compassion is exploited from everyone else. I.E, if a rando asshole in a town of ten shoots one of the other 9 and the other 8 decide to let him walk free, then the asshole has been empowered and gains more power over the group.

This is why moral codes are important. They dictate the rules of engagement and when compassion should not be applied. The solution to the worlds problems with international jewry, corruption, war, etc is a function of a societal moral code. If this is splintered or other uneven in a nation, no one can agree on what the rules of engagement should be on the application of compassion, which is why you see issues like abortion rights or dei shit pop up out of the woodwork. Culture war bullshit has its place, but its propagated by non-conpassionate actors for their own powers sake.

We are on the verge of a new moral code being developed in the US, whether that be christian fundamentalism, woke socialist green new deal types, or the worship at the temple of money. AI is forcing the hand more quickly than what the masters would have liked.

You are a disgrace to that flag

guilt tripping others into participating in my cuckoldry makes me a good person

People like this are going to disappear one way or another.

I never slighted you fren. You asked for a secular reason, I gave one that's all. I can't force ya to be altruistic

Why should I not wrong them back

Because wronging someone back then enables them to wrong you again in turn and justifies it in their mind.
Because the situation can escalate from a minor dispute into a generational feud.

Turning the other cheek basically was intended to stop minor disputes from escalating, by ending the conflict.
Also revenge is a third world thing and Scandis are not third world people. You are better than that.

Weak boomer toomers, weak roasties, weak niggerjews, weak.jews, weak NPCs,.etc

Are the ones that push those "muh strong muh difficult muh jewy muh " independent" muh hard times"... Actual strong individuals understand being in a place of reasonable downs and hardships... The weak pathetic NPC jewy ones want to manipulate, and "teach" and play the games, exactly

Good men create good times

Based take

Because nigger don't have prefrontal cortex and have no empathy.

s()yciety

Noice

As for compassion, all you are really needing to do is extend the goodwill you'd like to see extended to yourself.
it's about raising up the people around you so that your own life is more comfy.

Compassion is a vulnerability to exploit. Empathy is weakness and allows weakness to persist. Being compassionate to those who do not deserve it is why we're in the state we're in now. It has allowed the weak and undesirable to not only survive, but thrive and multiply.

Notice how both of these advocate for a competitive enviroment where their traits come out on top.

Survival of the hardest worker(objectively useless and only artificial ingrained in everyday life) and survival of the most lawful(law being whatever suits them).

The vulnerable are usually incapable of compassion.

True.
Gad Saad and others are right about weaponized or suicidal empathy.

buddy kikes have the backing of the world super power and they can't even kill 2 million muslims 2 years into a genocide, and btw the ottomans Chinese and Mughals for 3 centuries were the only great power in the world their biggest mistake was not Islamizing that gay shithole you call europe

Revenge is for God.
Read the Bible passages about it.
Trust in God and focus on rebuilding your life and He will smite your enemies if they truly wronged you.

No, but we keep importing third world people to whom turning the other cheek is a justification for exploiting you more. And that's exactly what we're seeing. These people cannot be ruled by the law of cardamom, they need to be threatened with dismemberment and stoning to behave like normal people. I know, because I've had it happen to me. I was raised to be tolerant, and was exploited for it.
Being tolerant, forgiving and compassionate is just losing twice. I extend my countrymen some more slack, but only when warranted.

usually, people get what they deserve.
and if they haven't got it yet, then they will get it 10 fold in the future

True compassion is:

help people stay in their homelands

ending rampant nepotism and cronyism where possible

eliminating environmental hazards that are wrecking people's hormones

destroy drug cartels

there was nothing compassionate about the lockdowns, may God heap hot coals on them.

the prevalence of circumcision

People who lack empathy and compassion live on survival mode and probably have done so since childhood. Most people have the emotional minds of children with the blame resting squarely on their parents shoulders. As they become adults the blame shifts onto the now adult-child-victim of a narcissistic parent. Just think about how many narcissists are around you at all times, these are survival thinkers and they love having kids. I'm starting to associate fat people with being emotionally stunted children of abusers and egomaniacs, asking them questions that frame out this idea usually hits home.

Not sure how explaining the game is advocating for the game. We just haven't to live in a world with other agents and laws. Ignoring rules of the games whether you agree with them or not will only make your life harder.
So like i was saying someone stealing your property is diffrent then Someone calling you a name or bumping into you on the street. Sure you could use your own might to correct either scenario. But The lader could easily be ignored and move on. And using the rule system in place can deal with the first neither require bad actions as retaliation.

The Ottomans did try, but the other two were not in a position to do so anyway. Noticed why I specified the Victorian era? Because that was when the disparity of power was immense, when Europeans could sail to anywhere in the world and machine guns could be facing off against muskets and swords. The only reason you aren't christian right now is because the british and others stopped caring about religion as much, there's no way to deny it.

The person taking the piss will eventually pick the wrong target and they'll take them out more than you could
here's an example

be me, grade four music class

sneaky little bitch keeps hitting my leg with her flute

can't hit her back because she'd cry to teacher and I'd be in trouble

instead I slowly move so I'm behind a large field with a mean temper

sense when bitch beside me is about to try to hit me again, duck out of the way

perfect timing, she hits Big Teresa instead

Has an oh shit look on her face, Teresa knows she did it and smacks her before she can say she didn't mean to.

Teacher does shit because Teresa is also a teachers pet sort.

girl never pesters me again

Outsmart them or rig their down but Revenge is for God.

behind large girl with mean temper

fucking phone posting useless autocorrect

Where is your compassion for these people?

The real wise man concerns only with his own life
Living inside his microcosmus

You are bad at physical violence so you condemn that but you have no qualms with legal violence in the same sentence. All morality claims are actualy enviromental nepotism.

Its not? Its considered alpha behavior and they're trying to make everyone betas

Because a community of people cannot exist with everyone trying to get revenge on each other. Once you start looking at behavior through the scope of what's evolutionarily beneficial, it starts to make sense. It is beneficial for group survival that people are compassionate to their in-group. It is NOT beneficial to be compassionate to an outside tribe at the cost of your owns' resources or people, unless it's 100% reciprocated (which when talking about different races and not closely related ethnicities, is rarely reciprocated).

That's because liberal individualistic values have substituted the Christian values of the ancient regime

Because a community of people cannot exist with everyone trying to get revenge on each other.

My goal is not for a community to exist. My goal is to get revenge. You should have caused me to want revenge if community is what you want but it is incompatible with revenge.

You trying to decide my goal for me is a manipulation attempt and idealy you will suffer even more for it when i get revenge on you.

should

Shouldnt

how would you feel if you eaten breakfast this morning

but i didnt eat breakfast this morning

Fucking macacos..

middle class attitude

God can suck my dick instead if god likes to peek enough in my life to know i want revenge. God can and fuck off i dont remember asking anything from that pervert.

because they're the smart ones who realized we don't have a culture or a civilization anymore but a giant mobile crime spree grift organized mob mafia cartel illegal insect hive, and treat it as such. What's the point of being nice if people will just treat it as weakness? Same reason why only cuckolds get married. Why risk 50% asset loss just 'cause everyone told you to?

In fact thats a breach of privacy. If god exist i will try to get revenge against that slight by killing god.

fake compassion is showed down your throat. performative one.
The true one is more rare.

I have compassion for all life but this performative compassion is pushing me to care about things I never gave a fuck about them i realized it was just another way for people to try to control you

Compassion, more often than not, means that poor people in your own country should have an even shittier life so that poor people from another country can come in and take their shit so the rich people in your country can feel better about themselves and make more money in the process.

It isn't real compassion. It's exploitation.

I pray sometimes that I can be the answer to someone else's prayers. I'm only one man, and with that I choose to live my life as if every moment I may have to interact with another person is as if i am interacting with god. Its weird, like treating everyone as a broken shard of a divine essence.

Because 9/10 times the person claiming they are pic related on the right turn out to be pic related on the left

I always viewed it as evolutionary, people give to gain, it seems a normal tactic to survive and when observed or tested in simulations many situations seem to show cooperation to aid in survival or longevity of the species

No religious arguments

That's because there are no secular ones, the vaguely utilitarian concept of compassion in secular societies breaks down as soon as we try to look for its moral foudation. It has none besides "if me feelgood then is good".

kikes and boomer propaganda
you are supposed to be compassionate because that will make the community/country you live in a better and safer place
that's why individualism was pushed so hard, why nuclear family/communities destroyed because they are a threat to higher ups
hey boomer

what can i say, i’m just a nice guy

how to fight sociopathy

become one

My

Your goal is irrelevant, your behavior is mostly inherited, your psychology shaped by millions of years of evolution to, in PRINCIPLE, benefit a society of genetically-similar people, aberrance notwithstanding. Western hyper-individualism is a mind virus, and its effects are apparent to anyone who understands group dynamics and mean behavior patterns of macro populations.

Go ahead and get your "revenge", and be ostracized by larger society.

You paint hyper individualism as a poetic fight against evolution itself, a struggle against nature to exert your own free will, refusing your fate to be just like everyone. It is not anything that grand.

Suffering is only a good thing if it works in the right Way.

The consequences of not paying us our NEET tribute is far worse than you can imagine
Read up on Viking raids in France and England, or peace treaties during the Byzantine Empire
you should consider yourself lucky that your NEET overlords are content…for now

I would say the "you take one eye and I take both" approach, and showing compassion to people that end up in shitty situations through disadvantage and circumstances, are mutually exclusive philosophies and completely compatible.

Go ahead and get your "revenge", and be ostracized by larger society.

And?