A squirrel btfo’d all flat earthers
A squirrel btfo’d all flat earthers
flat brains trolled this nigga ao hard he did all that?
Can you tell us at what altitude can we detect the curve?
Some sources will say at the ground or 30k feet. NASA once claimed it's at 60k feet. Nigger degrasse Tyson says you can't see it at 60k feet. At 120k feet it's still flat so it must be above that number right?
Before you lose your temper and accuse me of being a flat earth conspiratard, note that all I'm doing is asking questions which is a science experiment procedure.
Globalists lose their fucking minds because they can't grasp what a science experiment does or what it's used for. They only appeal to authority and use ridicule
Can you tell us at what altitude can we detect the curve?
6 feet
The problem with globalists is that they live in a fantasy world and have all the retard ammunition they want. That's a general problem when arguing with liars, because in their head they are not bound to reality and reason, they do not have a code of honor and dignity and truth, they can just make up shit, they can just show you a cartoon or a photoshop and say that's "reality", they can just play dumb and repeat their retardation that was disporven a million times. They do this over and over and over and then even claim that their delusion is science. Arguing with the ignorant is arguing against a wall, like arguing against a homosexual who thinks he is a woman, or someone who believes he is a fox or whatever animal - there is nothing anyone can tell that person, he lives in a world of his own feelings and desires that has no relation to physical reality, he just doesn't accept reality and then shits all over the topic and over anyone who tells him how plain reality actually is. That is every single globe earther.
The image of a globe earth is one of the most resilient spells that was ever cast over mankind.
watch 'American moon'
What is angular resolution clown
Why does it matter either way?
This is all just distraction.
Let people through Antarctica bitches
Nooo goyim you can't just complain about tax dollars being wasted on lies
If this depicts a flat earth, then where is the moon? Where does the sun go at night?
absolutely retarded.
I dont like using the ocean or large bodies or water because the water is still swishing around making swells and what not. I still want a high powered telescope capable of of seeing distances greater than the Atlantic or at the least the Gulf of America.
sweetie if you think the Earth is a pizza, just rent a boat and sail around the globe.
other easy evidence of the globe:
use a map of the globe to travel anywhere you want from A to B
did it work? did you arrive where you wanted? were the distances correct?
yes
you just proved the globe.
go outside at night and look at any satellite
is it going straight? or in a circle?
straight
you just proved the globe.
Not an argument kike
kek how do flatties cope with this image?
I’m beyond amazed at flatfag’s inability to perceive scale.
kike
flat earth is literally the basics of judaism, lmao.
Holy shit. So 6' really is the manlet litmus test, since you might be a fucking psychotic flerfer if your under that height.
Lmfao
Guilt by association fallacy nigger
You are claiming kikes don't hide truths and keep it them for themselves. Which makes you an automatic kike.
However I've never seen anyone defend the globe as much as kikes do
Thanks but this doesn't answer the question and giving me an altitude number
Goes straight into your putrid goybrain.
I still want a high powered telescope capable of of seeing distances greater than the Atlantic or at the least the Gulf of America.
Why do you need a telescope to see large distances?
Your eyeball can see light from literally trillions of miles away every time you see Polaris
And even a modest telescope can see the Moon in great detail, including seeing shadows along the terminator line proving that it has elevation
This one was taken with a Celestron C5 Spotting Scope, Skywatcher AZ-GTE mount, Sony a6000 camera - under $2000 total for all that gear
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please dont notice that flat earth = judaism
nah, lets notice it even harder.
if you think the Earth is a pizza, just rent a boat and sail around the globe.
other easy evidence of the globe:
use a map of the globe to travel anywhere you want from A to B
did it work? did you arrive where you wanted? were the distances correct?
yes
you just proved the globe.
go outside at night and look at any satellite
is it going straight? or in a circle?
straight
you just proved the globe.
Lol
Have you seen satellite map data? Guess what they aren't taking pics of the entire earth. Look up satellite image data on Google and it's all flat maps that are used in the stitching of the globe.
There's no pic of the round earth by a satellite its all CGI
By zooming in or using some bincoculars to bring the whole thing flat back into focus ,:)
pictures
im not talking about pictures.
im talking about a map.
Fata Morgana cause the images to be inverted
There is no inversion here - the windmills
Furthermore, Fata Morgana are only seen occasionally under specific circumstances, but these windmills are always obscured this way, bottom-up
Same for boats, mountains, etc.
In other words, like most flat earther arguments, you try to explain it away through an unrelated phenomenon but it doesn't stand up to examination of the details
If a kike admits they did 911 then Ig kikes didn't do it right? That's your logic retard. Kikes have duped you into believing the bible which was written before their talmud is a flat earth cosmology book
This is called begging the question
Map? You mean globe map that was made stitching flat earth map data together?
Zooming has never "brought back" a ship that has disappeared bottom-up
Here is a video that shows the proportion of each ship remains the same as the camera zooms in
No amount of zoom will let you see the bottom of the ship - it's simple geometry
Isn't* a flat earth cosmology book
It's not begging the question it's a perfectly demonstration of reality about bottom-up disappearance happening on flat surfaces, thus it doesn't indicate curvature at all
What do you mean "where is the moon?". You mean you should see it in that video? I don't know where exactly the moon was in that particular video. It could be far beyond the horizon. You need to learn what the horizon is in this 3 dimensional world that you are living in. It is an optical thing of your 3 dimensional perspective. With your eye-balls, also called "globes", oblate spheroids, you see in 3 dimensional perspective. Everything above your eye level appears to go down in your visual field into your horizon, everything below your eye level appears to go up in your visual field into your horizon.
In this video, you don't see "half a globe", you just see a small portion of the plane as far as you can see at that hight. The sun is way higher so you see it farther in the distance, and it appears to go down the farther away it moves. The ground goes further and further beyond, your vision is limited.
What is more interesting is that there are never any stars at high altitude balloon footage. Which makes no sense in the globe world. You see blackness, but no stars. They seem only visible from the level of earth up to air-plane altitude.
Water Level
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Air-Plane Level
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Balloon Level
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there are never any stars at high altitude balloon footage
Once again, flat earthers have no clue how photography works
It doesn't exist
There are plenty of videos and photos proving otherwise
It hardly matters since you discredited yourself earlier in thread anyway
Flatties dont even have a map
lol pathetic losers.
lets prove that earth is a globe one more time, its very fun:
if you think the Earth is a pizza, just rent a boat and sail around the globe.
other easy evidence of the globe:
use a map of the globe to travel anywhere you want from A to B
did it work? did you arrive where you wanted? were the distances correct?
yes
you just proved the globe.
go outside at night and look at any satellite
is it going straight? or in a circle?
straight
you just proved the globe.
you cant prove any of these points wrong : )
So when are the "space agencies" going to fix their camera exposure? I guess they are just incapable forever and we will always see space as pitch black in their photos?
also, lets denounce the talmud and the torah together!
me first!
i denounce the talmud and the torah, israel is a fake state, its all palestinian land.
now, YOUR TURN!
you have two (2 posts) to do it, otherwise you admit you are a well poisoning jew.
There are plenty of videos and photos proving otherwise
No there are not
There are exactly zero videos of an object that has had its bottom half disappear over the horizon, but be "brought back" into view
All the lying videos you have seen show a small
ship too far to resolve being "brought back" by zooming
But please - try to prove me wrong
I look forward to pointing out exactly what I just said
Fisheye lens goes brrrr
I also denounce the Talmud and the Torah, Israel is a fake state, and a free Palestine is in the best interest of world peace
The Earth is a demonstrably a globe.
No there are not
Hahaha look at this newfag
Denouncing the Torah makes you a kike, since kikes reject the Torah
I denounce the talmud only, because I actually Hate kikes unlike you
I'm an atheist hah
LMAO this nigga took his boosters
Also a teenagers attempt at falsifying credibility?
Yeah you are done
yes i am a jew i refuse to denounce the torah
thank you for admitting you are a jew.
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Funniest shit to me, as a guy who does flowback for oil and gas wells we frac into with microscopic abrasive sand, is how the fuck are there any differences between us washing out a tiny ass tungsten lined choke manifold and a small dust particle blasting through your spaceship- which oh by the way we dont have fucking forcefield shields and the particles there have 100x more magnitude kinetic energy claimed for your tinfoil spacecraft
Gayest shit ever lol
We never went to the moon
We never left orbit
Hit the firmament and thats it, congrats back to ritual child sacrifice, blood drinking, and wars while the usurers exploit you and everyone with retarded psyops
The fact that he attempted to create some false arbitrary rule of "I said this therefore you can trust me" is proof he is a shill and arguing in bad faith
Imagine defending science, as a man of science, and during the debate you try to recite some magic mumbo jumbo that is somehow inside yo head gonna give you an edge over the competing debate teams
We just witnessed a defender of science attempt to use magical think(and therefore outs himself as having a willingness to manipulate, exploit and deceive through ignorance)
Sad
That's a cartoon no stars then go pro shit etc etc the that's shit you faghots do bots is dishonest your stuoid wasting time in a globe container there are no stars in the background off you assholes and you duoid uneducated little fraud you are not smart you ars not intelligence enough are satanic cannibal bay fuckign dog fuckogn jemocracy asshwipe fuciign retarded dumbas shit engaging is fraud and gay osyop for you little satanic cults put your raelian and sperg shit on and glee to tel aviv you arw heretics snd shitstianed jewmoceacy and masonic reoubocian crafted of stupid you satanic gay fill eprhop and no curvature lying for the oppsitie of reality all earth cultist shit Is assigned and stabic spreg you need to be killed fact
Because it leads to the Truth that youre a Created being with an eternal soul accountable to the Most Holy God whilst we frolic around gay totem poles for homos with aids and call it progress and sing kumbaya
peripheral vision does not exist
The earth is jew shaped.
ballies are brain dead, move on
you will never "redpill" one, and even if you would, brand new ones are produced daily in gov sponsored retard factories
just ... move on ... they can't be helped
lets denounce the talmud and the torah together!
me first!
i denounce the talmud and the torah, israel is a fake state, its all palestinian land.
now, YOUR TURN!
you have two (2 posts) to do it, otherwise you admit you are a well poisoning jew.
The way they argue is the same way non arguments were made against truthers in 2002-2006 online
DoD narrative control shills have existed since ATS first launched.
Beware of them anywhere American discussions are had online
These are the "don't question your government or indoctrination(schooling)" shills and have been around for a long time and can be found on any site that is known for conspirational discussion
A statement about metaphysics is not outside metaphysics
if you think the Earth is a pizza, just rent a boat and sail around the globe.
other easy evidence of the globe:
use a map of the globe to travel anywhere you want from A to B
did it work? did you arrive where you wanted? were the distances correct?
yes
you just proved the globe.
go outside at night and look at any satellite
is it going straight? or in a circle?
straight
you just proved the globe.
you cant prove any of these points wrong : )
also:
lets denounce the talmud and the torah together!
me first!
i denounce the talmud and the torah, israel is a fake state, its all palestinian land.
now, YOUR TURN!
you have two (2 posts) to do it, otherwise you admit you are a well poisoning jew.
No I don't believe in it and have nothing but contempt for your backwards beliefs, so this argument wouldn't work on me but if I denounce the talmud in front of you maybe you will do what I want
No, kys polak scum.
The Torah and Talmud are truth and empirical evidence the world is flat and 6000 years old.
Google maps is flat. You can use it to navigate and measure distances retard
The hilarious part is they attempt to force you into a category via pigeonholing fallacy if you don't agree with everything they say as an attempt to by proxy hominem
Google maps is flat. You can use it to navigate and measure distances retard
Why is it that, when I measure this distance, it (a) gets the correct value, and (b) does not draw a straight line?
Nobody actually believes the earth is flat
"Flat earthers" are kike well poisoners that show up to make people discovering actual kike crimes look like retards by proximity
It's like how you point out the vax is poison and someone shows up to "helpfully" agree with you and yell the vax is made from 5G nanobots and nephilim blood
Or when you point out how Zionists benefitted from 9/11 and someone shows up to "helpfully" agree with you and yell that the World Trade Center didn't even exist, it was a hologram hit with cruise missiles disguised as airplanes
I'm onto you fuckers
That's the "my daddy calls me flat earther therefore I must take my daddy issues online and attack other anons and shit up board"
Polish jew
Last time his ethnic heritage was brought into question he abandoned thread
He isn't interested in truth, he will lie, kidnap children and exsanguinate them if he thinks it will get him the attention and respect from his father he so desires
The mercator map is just the globe map reverse engineered. The globe map was created using flat earth map data.
Just because you show a curve on a mercator projection doesn't mean anything. Models are presentations not reality
Or on the other alternative, flat earth helps expose all the kike lies. Ofc you don't want us going after kike strongholds such as freemasonry and the deep state. I wonder why
I just believe NASA is lying
I also favor admiral Byrd's testimony and enjoy the works of Charles Hutton
Governments lie to keep you from exploring truth or the nature of this world
Compulsory schooling indoctrinates your perception of reality.
Next time you see that polish try to push the argument that some judes believe in flat earth as his guilty by association fallacy, remind the thread that pic related was the largest contributor to the population believing in space and the solar system, and he is also a jew
You should also look into the 3 body problem of celestial mechanics.
it's duuuhhh masons
Holy fuck I didn't expect you to show your hand that easily
So flat derpers don’t believe in the laws of physics basically. Cool.
no one believed the earth was round or space existed until a TV show aired in the 1970s
The NSDAP confirmed in their investigation into seized books, lodges and other materials the malicious agenda of the freemasons
We have already had a thread about the report and translated it
Lurk moar
It’s not about the altitude… it’s about the lens.
When you lack contextual comprehension of historic popularity of ideas
I'm not convinced these aren't bots. You don't encounter remotely enough particles at relevant enough speeds to significantly damage spacecraft.
You can easily check that the horizon drops below eye level with a high vantage point, a camera, and two level tools.
You don't encounter remotely enough particles at relevant enough speeds to significantly damage spacecraft.
These flat earthers aren't going to let simple things like "facts" or "observations" get in the way of their well poisoning, anon
At sunrise and sunset, in a flat earth model, how does the sun shine on the bottom side of clouds? Is the the sun below the clouds?
The Voyager 1 defies all laws of physics.
we are here
on a 1040mph spinning piece of dirt
that orbits the sun with 67000mph
which moves with 0.5 million mph through space while dragging all planets perfectly with it
while the milkyway spins with 1.5 million mph and dragging the sun and solar system sideways
picrel
and because of earths atmosphere and gravity all physical forces like centrifugal/pedal force have no effect on anything
air also behaves like solid that is sticked to the surface
no westward constant wind, even though we spin with 1040mph
space dust also does not effect anything because of heliosphere which encapsulates the solarsystem
otherwise every satelite or probe that travels within the solarsystem will be shredded by 0.5 million mph fast dust, while we move through in space
whis is the the only magnetic field, that is A: heated beyond currie point B: defying the inverse square low of electic fieldstrengths
because closer to center the field magnetism is almost indetectable but at distance over 2.8 Billion Miles the field is strong enough, to create a super strong ion force field
heliosphere is discovered by Voyger1 Probe
The Vayager 1 supposedly started in 1977 and reached the end of our solarsystem in 2012. Thats 35 years.
Neptune (furthest planet) is ~4,400,000,000 km far from earth.
Which means that the voyager 1 had the Average speed of 14500 km/h which is ridicolous.
within our system we have space dust
ranging from 0.0001mg to 100mg
average dust density 0.000001 grain/m^3 (assuming we never collided with a dust cloud within 35 years)
voyager diameter 3.66m
chances of hitting a dust grain per traveled km in the best case scenario 0.7%
100% chance hitting a dust grain every 145 km traveling through space
amount of dust colided with from earth to end of solar system
30.344.827 particels of dust MUST have been colided with voyager 1
Not only that, but don't forget the fact that the illumination % of the moon over its phases is sinusoidal, proving it is spherical.
Spacecraft? Rockets have arch trajectories because they're going back into the ocean. Satellites don't orbit earth in space. Same shit as talking about unicorns my guy
I'm not reading all that, but it's probably something about "yeah but they encounter SOME particles!!" and those particles most usually get vaporized upon impact
Lots of times the flat earthers will try to weasel out of it by saying "It only looks like the underside of the cloud is lit, actually it's going through the cloud"
So the better argument is "How is the underside of these airplanes illuminated by direct sunlight?"
Yeah satellites are just little rc airplanes right
This is where a flat earther explains perspective/pov to a glober. He doesn't understand what he sees, but he is sure the flat earther is wrong.
Relative Angles. As distance increases, things above the horizon appear lower in it's Y coordinate plane. Things below the horizon appear higher on its y coordinate as the objects are farther away.
Your understanding of this phenomenon as it is the way we all perceive, means you know that things might look higher up or lower down, yet they are actually level.
This phenomenon creates the effect of the sun appearing below the clouds.
IM ROOOOOOOOTATING THOUSANDS OF MILES PER HOUR IN A FUCKEN VACUUM BRO
OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Sunlight can reflect off of a lake and bounce back up
How are there still pan cucks? Wasn’t there a trip to Antarctica long very long ago where they flew out a bunch of those retards to see that the sun was still up?
6.000.000 feet
Not a flat-tard but I don't think this demonstrates globe theory, the light can still illuminate the underside, my thing would be could the atmosphere scatter enough light to give us the gradual sunset and twilight we experience with a globe in the flat earth model? The sun would have to be in some goofy ass position
Nobody claims the moon is a flat disk
What is interesting is my time in SW Florida near the equator, is when it becomes glaringly obvious the moons phase doesn't even change a little in the morning hours when both the sun and moon are visible and clearly unobstructed by earth and any shadow that could be made thereof
There should at least be a temporary shift in phase during the rising of the unobstructed sun and moon, wherein the moon would at least appear full for half an hour much like how lunar eclipses in visibility of the moons surface in any given season
Yet this does not happen
Therefore through imperically provable observation tests and repeatability of the results of said observations, that the Moon maintains it's phase independently of its relative position to the earth and sun or either singularly.
Which is something I find absolutely fascinating considering I have confirmed this phenomenon with other observers
The wheels on the cars are level, yet exist on different points on the Y plane. Reverse this for above the horizon. Clouds end up above Sun and get lit from below.
Wasn’t there a trip to Antarctica long very long ago where they flew out a bunch of those retards to see that the sun was still up?
Yeah, and one of the flat earthers recanted and gave up his retardation
The others just hold to their grift because it's their money train
ignores that if the world was flat they could just take a single image and wouldn't have to stitch it together
Another peak retard moment
still refuses to denounce the torah and the talmud
thanks for admitting you're a jew.
Google maps is flat.
no its not, zoom out.
We don't dismiss 24 hour sun. We just can't explain it. I think it's Sun Dogs.
He knows the media lie all the time but he still believes in space and planets
No amount of atmospheric scattering could make the sun half-set over the ocean like this
This is only the result of the curvature of the Earth blocking the lower half of the sun while the top half continues to have line-of-sight to the camera
That's the joke of it all, they don't see how glaringly obvious they make themselves here
flatties cant explain 24 hour sun in the antarctic
did you try using a globe as reference and not a pizza.
You're referring to Google earth, not Google maps
try looking at the night sky through a telescope.
We just can't explain it
And yet the globe model explains it perfectly
And simultaneously explains sunrises, sunsets, eclipses, seasons, changing day/night, and an experiment first conceived by Eratosthenes (pic related)
Damn you're stupid.
zoom out both.
Uh huh, right
Satellites are so close that they can't take a picture of the whole planet. They have to take pictures of sections and crop them together. Pictures of of Earth from the moon, Mars Rovers, and space probes going to other planets have those photoshopped pictures.
My Google maps show it's flat, not a ball. Not sure what they provide on Google maps in Poland
My Google maps show it's flat
no it doesnt.
I saw sometime a 24h fast track Antarctica video but it wasn’t uncut
I think you need to get your eyes checked troll
show us how your google maps zoomed out looks like.
press "print screen" and post it here.
let everybody see it.
go on, ill wait.
Angles require 2 straight lines. You cannot draw angles to curves and circles
Once again. Depth creates variation in the Y plane. This depth explains everything with the sunset.
You have a series of "Gotchas" for flat earthers and a series of Optical Illusions that explain why certain visual phenomena confer legitimacy to the flat earth. If a flat earther says, hey, let me have one of those optical illusions, you recoil.
I saw sometime a 24h fast track Antarctica video but it wasn’t uncut
360 degree camera (you can click-and-drag Youtube video to spin the camera around)
24+ hour sun
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I fully expect you to say "Hurr it's 3 videos it's not uncut"
It's split into 3 parts because of Youtube limitations, but you can ask Will Duffy for the full uncut video
On the September 2017 Equinox, 23 amateurs from 9 countries measured the shadows cast by a vertical pole at solar noon
They gave their data, photos of the measurements, and their positions to a Youtuber called Sly Sparkane
All the photos and GPS locations are is shown in the video
He mapped them onto a flat plane and saw no correlation indicating a close local Sun
Then he mapped them onto a sphere and saw all angles fall within one degree of parallel
This is what Eratosthenes did over 2000 years ago, but Sly Sparkane did it with many more data points
Flerfs will sometimes reply with "But shadows don't prove it" and show an image with two shadows
And they're right, two shadows is consistent with a Flat Earth
But once you go more than 2, then the results are definitive because there is no correlation in the shadow angle when mapped onto a flat plane
Flerfs will also say that all measurements must be taken at the same time
The measurements are all taken at solar noon, when the shadow is the shortest and thus the sun is highest
That is the only way to eliminate the variable of the declination angle of the sun.
The Flat Earth is thus disproven by sticks and shadows
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explain to my why I can't see polaris in the southern hemisphere again
Sure you can explain it. The earth isn’t flat very simple easy to understand answer.
explain to my why I can't see polaris in the southern hemisphere again
And while they're at it, explain how 3 people on different continents can all look in different directions yet see the Southern Cross
Google maps uses the mercator projection which is a flat projection. Are you saying it doesn't use the mercator then which one is it using? It's not a ball when you zoom out you fucking retard pole
Just looked for him
Yup, flat as your mother's ass and your father's neo cortex
Take out the meme lines and pretend to us that you can recognize the stars again
flatearthers can tell you the earth is flat, but can't tell you any discoveries (exploration, engineering, agriculture, astronomy, navigation, etc) this has led them to. Besides vague distrust of government (which any thinking person should already have when looking at our hell of a society), they use their "secret knowledge" to no benefit besides making youtube videos that consistently get BTFO'd instead of inventing a more accurate GPS, a more optimal crop cycle, launching drones below the flat earth, etc
it's almost like they only exist to waste your time and poison the well where-ever real discussion exists
Take out the meme lines and pretend to us that you can recognize the stars again
That's not an answer
Explain to us why we can't see Polaris in the southern hemisphere
Why does America appear on the map twice when you zoom out retard?
ITS 933 GAJILLION MILES AWAY BRO TRUST ME NOW WATCH ME DO THE STICK THING
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listen you retarded faggot, the problem has never been prove its flat or wheres the curve. none of that matters. the fkn dome is 100 miles up. every fallen angel in music has leaked that digi repeatedly, every demon summoned desires admittance to the ‘seventh gate’ which is… 100 miles up, and just about every scifi kike movie references this dome height. go watch any rocket launch and they all show you km altitude in corner. they all fail at 160to160.9km=100mi. they have never breached. not once. so you see, who gives a fk if its flat. we are trapped under GOD JESUS’ dome.
PRAISE JESUS THE KING OF KINGS
I bet I could take a light and a dome and cause a '24' hours sun when sun dogs appear in multiple corners of the dome.
Explain why the southern cross and Polaris never moves :)
How fat or virginal does one have to be to think we live on plate and dismiss anything they can’t explain, like volcanism, timezones, gravity.
You guys need a hobby.
It's called looping, it's still flat
I think the star names are memes, to the average person at least,because all look the same. Give us 3 different pictures of what you call Polaris and then we’ll talk
It's actually the reverse. I live my life in a flat earth and people have to keep reminding me it's round for it to ever factor into any decision making/cause and effect I experience.
Google maps uses the mercator projection which is a flat projection.
wrong.
its a projection of the globe.
let me help you jews, pic related.
i zoomed it out more for you.
now, lets take a boat from japan to los angeles.
edit that image and draw a route your boat would take from japan to los angeles.
Because they are directly over the axis of spin.
Jesus fucking christ i am going to torture you people one day
I thought we wobbled.
That's not a refutation of the facts
The measurements do not correspond to a flat plane, but map perfectly onto a sphere
Also, your pic is horseshit
Is the sun right outside this window too?
Why does a flat earth loop retard?
pic related.
Looks pretty flat to me
I don't see any curvature on Google maps
I bet I could take a light and a dome and cause a '24' hours sun when sun dogs appear in multiple corners of the dome.
So do it, and win the Nobel Prize
What's stopping you?
Define the southern cross
Gottem
That's not an answer
Explain to us why we can't see Polaris in the southern hemisphere
Also, Polaris does move.
it looks like a globe, actually.
if you think its flat, go ahead and draw a route from japan to los angeles on it.
Ask an Australian, they look at it every night
Camera can't see stars with light pollution from sun dumb nigger
That's not an answer
Explain to us why we can't see Polaris in the southern hemisphere
We do, but not a huge amount.
That's not an answer
Correct
It was an inquiry!
horizon line is based on your vision
So based on that logic, the horizon line is undefined since people of different heights observe it.
Meanwhile globers get all their slop by laying on the couch watching history channel, and blindly trusting authority.
People believing we live on a spinning ball has advanced our species in what way exactly? Earth is always navigated, built upon, measured, and observed flat. Nothing has advanced with newtonian or Einstein mechanics in any capacity. Can you tell us how?
Still not an answer
Explain to us why we can't see Polaris in the southern hemisphere
I've answered several of your questions, why won't you answer mine?
This rectangular 2d image looks like a globe
Well, now we know what level you are at
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Where's his prize?
hey jew.
this:
Pole BTFOs himself by showing a flat mercator projection of Google maps
Lol, must be embarrassing
AUSTRALIA IS WILD BRO WE ARE TOTALLY UPSIDE DOWN RIGHT NOW
THEY TOLD ME NOT TO TRUST ME SENSES AND TO TRUST THE SCIENCE BRO
How is America both West of Europe and East of China on a flat Earth retard?
Copy and paste left and right. How else silly?
sweetie, my dear, dear jew, go ahead and DRAW A BOAT ROUTE FROM JAPAN TO HAWAII ON IT.
this is all you have to do.
show us what route your boat would take from japan to hawai.
better yet, Pearl Harbour.
Furthermore, vision would be impossible, since the ground covers the bottom of things in a distance. Imagine walking and the ground is at eye level. You can't see what's in front of you because the floor is blocking your view
You can see more ground the higher you go up as your lower angular resolution increases. Doesn't mean your can see the ground forever. Observations at ground level will be different than Observations higher than that
I find it interesting that when against the wall instead of acknowledging they might have been lied to they demand you have the real nature of this world in print in order to call out obvious lies
This is like you calling out a mans cheating wife in front of him, telling the man you know for a fact she is lying because you were at the gym all day and the times she claimed she was there she was not at the gym
But instead of accepting your reproach of his wife, in order for him to believe your accusation and CCTV that proves she was never at the gym, you must provide evidence of where she was, how much gas mileage she used to get there, what positions her and her secret lover fucked in, and if you can't provide these detailed answers, then your claims that she lied about going to the gym can therefore be dismissed
And remember, these are the shills that act like they are smarter than you
Neglecting the effects of the index of refraction of the air and its change with altitude, the vectors between an observer and the horizon and their positions with respect to the Earth's center look something like this, where R is the radius of curvature, h is the height of the observer, d is the distance from the observer to the horizon, Ï• is the surface angle between the observer and horizon, and x is the straight line distance from the surface below the observer to the horizon. From which we can get three relationships:
1) (h+R)^2 = d^2 + R^2
2) d = (h+R) sin(Ï•)
3) R = (h+R) cos(Ï•)
4) x^2 = 2R^2 (1 - cos(Ï•))
If one of the variables above is known (like R), these equations can be used to solve for the others, but for our purposes we're only interested in the condition where the curvature becomes noticeable. Let's suggest that this occurs when the height of the observer above the surface, h, is no longer negligible compared to the straight-line distance, x, between points on the surface. Normally to calculate the distance to the horizon, we assume h is negligible, and that x ~ d, which gets us our solution for the distance to the horizon: d^2 ~ 2 h R. This gives us the usual estimate of the horizon distance of ~4.8-4.9 km for a typical person.
However, let's take h to be small, but not negligible, say x ~ 10 h. Under this condition we get a solution for h of about 125 km
Why would they do that on a flat earth retard?
Still not an answer
Because it was an inquiry.
I don't need to know the full story of truth, in order to know that NASA and our educational departments and psuedo scientific institutions are lying according to their own falsified claims
The truth can only come after the acceptance that deception has taken place.
That's not an answer
Explain to us why we can't see Polaris in the southern hemisphere
Every ship on the planet navigates using the assumption that the Earth is round. They get where they are going therefore their calculations are accurate retard.
Nigger look at those windmills again, do you think eye level is the middle of those blades. You are absolutely retarded.
How can the moon always face us, also why does its size and speed remain the same all night. On a flat earth the sun and moon would start slow and small until when it’s almost directly over us and then scream past us.
draw a line on a mercator projection
No thanks, that's a map that was reversed engineers from the globe, which was made by stitching together flat maps.
You're talking about a flat earth with your projections since they use flat maps. I'm not the one claiming your flat earth maps as the perfect scale model
That's not an answer
It is an answer, you just can't handle it.
See
How the fuck does anybody navigate if they are wrong abut the fundamental physical properties of Earth retard?
That's not an answer
Explain to us why we can't see Polaris in the southern hemisphere
there is no such thing as a flat map lmao, they are all maps of a globe, thats why you cannot draw a simple boat route from japan to hawaii.
jews lose, again.
As an addendum, your ability to detect the curvature comes down to the resolution of your eyesight or imaging device. I picked h ~ x/10 for convenience (it's a nice ratio), but more sensitive eyes or a higher resolution image could detect the curvature at a much lower altitude. If you can detect it at, say, h ~ x/50, for example, the necessary altitude reduces to about 5 km.
And in this metaphor. Proving the Earth is Flat is proving the wife is cheating. They ask for proof like it takes nothing to get it.
What does it take to prove the Earth is flat? Can you just sail and see a 24 hour sun and say yep that proves it. No. You have to explore Antartica. An entire continent that's average elevation is as high as Everest. It requires an army to set up dozens of outposts and compile thousands of hours of footage all across the continent.
And in considering all of this you wonder? What the fuck is the world doing NOT doing this. And, it's because oh yeah we'd prove the Earth was flat.
How did the sea peoples navigate?
Magnetic forces and positions of lightbulbs and Christmas tree lights that don't require believing in curvature or a special planetoid shape in order to operate
You don't know what a landmark is?
there is no such thing as a flat map
Observations at ground level will be different than Observations higher than that
Oh fuck off.
Zero level is zero level. We measure it with rulers and lines. Just because I look at a ruler at the sideways angle, it means the ruler is wrong now?
The only thing changing is your POV. You can't base reality at your point of view, can you?
And before you say "well, if rulers are only straight at the right point of view, how do you trust them?" Because 1+1 is still equals 2 we are using the mesuraments that work with hat logic, not personal bias.
higher resolution image could detect the curvature at a much lower altitude
Yes indeed, especially when you use imaging tools to compress the image horizontally, thus making the curvature more apparent
The red bars show that this is not some lens distortion - they are straight, but the horizon is curved
Every screen I have seen from navigational equipment on sea vessels are represented in a flat plane. Can you please show otherwise?
Latitude and longitude relate to a sphere retard.
Sorry but an R value requires a measurement you haven't provided. What R value? You can't claim a refractive index and a geometric sphere edge at the same time, it's a contradiction. Please stop claiming the horizon refracts at any and all distances
There’s a magical icewall containing Earth’s oceans, and once it gets melted, the oceans will fall off the Earth. Damn it. I knew those icewalls would melt eventually since they’re directly under the sun all the time, but damn heck! Flibbertygibbit!
You are in China. You sail due East. Where you you end up? Europe. You keep going East. Where do you end up eventually? China.
Show otherwise faggot.
why would they do this for a flat map?
Because they can. Anyone can. Doesn't make the mercator suddenly change being non-flat
And here we go, this faggot is now trying to conflate anyone who notices Jewish behavior with flat earth retards. how queer.
Everything I've seen on a flat screen was flat
But to answer the point you're trying to make, locally the Earth can be treated as flat because it's really fucking big compared to us
This is what we are dealing with folks. Globers level of intelligence. That second image is gobbledygook my dude.
No one thinks that seeing mount everest at the horizon means that the peak is as tall as you are. Quite dishonest
So you're just going with "nuh uh" when confronted with evidence
I don't know why I expected anything less, to be honest
Ancient sailors didn't use lay or long, they used the seasons and positions of the stars
Historical brainlet lmao
You have clearly never used a map or compass in your life kek
do you know how camera focal lengths work? How they will distort an image by widening it or tightening the curvature with longer lens at like 120mm mark. If you can't comprehend even the basics of the mediums used to capture the image then how can you truly begin to understand the scale and curvature relative to the equipment used?
Consider the curvature of this pregnant teenage girl's stomach. To a microbe on the surface of her skin, it all appears as a singular flat plane but to when the perspective is scaled to our size and relative distance, it is clearly a sphere.
Please be aware that cameras have lens distortion and also that's not level and light bends around objects when they are out of sight.
What R value?
the Retard (not to be confused with "retard") value
That's just the top down view
Now tell us what the sailors who actually got all round the world used?
Protip: it was us and using a round Earth.
cameras have lens distortion
I addressed that already - the red bars are straight and are used to show that it is not the lens causing the curve
that's not level
Irrelevant, the curve exists
light bends around objects when they are out of sight.
Incorrect and irrelevant, the ocean is visible through the bars
You lost, just shut the fuck up and move on
Map of the globe was made by stitching together satellite flat earth map data. All pics of the entire "globe" are CGI
I was just trying to explain that myself lol. nophotog fags think every lens in the same, and every picture is captured under the same conditions and mechanical settings.
this is so stupid.
I mean, even IF earth was flat, who gives a shit?
Attempts goalpost move
*Blocked*
You already outed yourself as a navigational failure in this regard
You know pol is glow nigger central when flat earth slide threads get 100s of posts
Idiot, you cannot sail to a magic "end".
First, it's all enclosed by the ICE. So you are going to have to do an Expedition into an Antarctic .
Second, there is NO MATTER once you pass a certain point.
stop being morons
You said it disappears from ground up until eye level. Why does my eye level compared to large objects seem to keep rising as it gets further and further away?
Who gives a shit if I was lied to during my formative years, and my parents were lied to and my brothers children will be lied to in order to control them?
Good goy
Why do you arrive at America again when you just keep on sailing East faggot? Why does your "flat" map loop around in a circle faggot?
All pics of the entire "globe" are CGI
I can't wait for you to deny that we flew past the Moon 9 times
In your POV straight lines are converging. They are still straight. What is so hard to grasp about that?
That would still be the smallest lie told to you. If anything it's just a stupid subject to keep you busy while they put their handsies in your pocket.
Blindly doubles down
I said you were done already island boy
an R value requires a measurement you haven't provided
The question wasn't "prove the radius of the Earth", the question was what altitude you would need to reach to notice the curvature if the round Earth model is correct
You can't claim a refractive index
I didn't
Neglecting the effects of the index of refraction of the air
This is a purely geometric/trigonometric argument.
Favela mindsets final form
Nobody posted a correct response
Get a ZOOM CAMERA , idiot.
nigger
gets smartphone with zoom camera
sits on a beach
zooms towards this wind mill
wind mill's BOTTOMS magically can be seen
A fcking Nigger with a smarphone just broke your ball, morons.
You have absolutely nothing to prove your assertions this entire thread and just sidestep the things that prove absolutely that you are wrong without comment.
As such you have lost this thread.
Any giga-chad concave Earthers in this thread?
nigger
gets smartphone with zoom camera
sits on a beach
zooms towards this wind mill
wind mill's BOTTOMS magically can be seen
Link it then
I'd love to see it
Oh wait, you can't show it?
Because it's never happened, ever?
What a shock that a flat earth retard lied about this!
en.wikipedia.org
Not at all, see above. I will say nuh uh when you try to prove something by distorting an image. I can see that if you drew lines across every part of that you would see nothing is lining up. The curve shoud appear without the top/bottom red bar looking tilted in the different images. Or the differences in the left and right side as well. I don't trust it.
You have absolutely nothing to prove your assertions this entire thread and just sidestep the things that prove absolutely that you are wrong without comment.
It's the way of the flat earther
Sometimes they will try to ad-hoc some explanation of a phenomenon, like the other retard talking about angular resolution
But when it's pointed out that their explanation makes no sense or contradicts with observation, they will usually just resort to moving to another topic
Usually the jannies take care of horseshit like this before it gets this far though - I guess they don't give a fuck anymore
this, jews were the original flat earthers until greeks proven them otherwise, lmao
I don't trust it.
So "Nuh uh" with a side helping of "Lol you believe the mainstream"
Focal length implies that there's a limitation for angular resolution. This isn't going to help you "understand" the globe. It just means there's no such thing and unlimited angular resolution or infinite zoom
en.wikipedia.org
That method literally depends on the Earth being spherical for it to work
First Law
Greeks were flatties too. Mason Pythagoras proposed globe earth
Still has not explained why you eventually arrive back at America when you just keep on sailing East
It also works on an azimuthal equidistant map with a north pole.
At sunset, on a ball model, ball supposedly should rotate AWAY from the sun, which is massive.
imagine your house at the top of this picture.
at sunset on a ball , a LARGE portion of the supposed sun is below YOUR horizon.
so it supposed shine on a CEILING of your room
But it isn't how it's in reality.
Can ball believers explain why the sun only shines on the FLOOR during sunset, and not on the ceiling?
Flat earth retards cannot comprehend scale, Episode 84302
You cannot detect curvature. You making it up,
along with jesuits and freemasons who are pushing it.
Sun doesn’t work like that. The whole plate would receive light. There’d be no day/night cycle whether the sun is moving in a circle or not. Unless you think the sun is really tiny. Kek.
mctoon monologuing while he appeals to CGI cartoons
Instead of doing that he could just give his globe proof
durr deh medior
Where does the Sun go when it sets?
I see you've placed the Moon above the Earth in your "model"
Please explain to me how everybody on Earth sees the same phases and side of the Moon on that model
Globers say that the earth is so big that it looks flat but when you go out enough it is actually round. They DEMAND that capacity for you to imagine scale.
When a flatty tries to explain their model, the glober imagines themselves to be a 500ft tall giant and asks, why can't I see it? Because you aren't understanding the scale of yourself in regards to the flat earth.
Heliocentrism = normie tier
Flat Earth = low-IQ reddit rebellion
Concave Earth = giga-chad esoteric fascist Anon Babbleack cosmology
A table can do that at 3 inches.
A table can do that at 3 inches.
If you are below the edge of the table, yes
This photo was not taken from inside a ditch, so your point is irrelevant
Incorrect and irrelevant, the ocean is visible through the bars
It's not though, also the level of the bars could be put into question, as well as the angle of the camera against the bars.
There could also be barometric pressure differences that far out on the ocean which could warp the ocean significantly, this would have to be a compilation over long periods of time as well to be valid, you also need support braces on each side of the bars to the camera to make sure they are perpendicular.
The bars themselves aren't level in the picture either.
In fact I bet this picture is cropped it doesn't even look centered, the resolution is non-standard, no information on camera or lens either.
Yes, the top curves up and the bottom is level
That works against the actual physical curvature of the ocean
So in truth, your lines just show that the curvature is more pronounced
Globe earth confirmed
Concavers are worse than globers. Concave earth still requires a measurement of an R value and a package of retarded assumptions
Where does the sun do when it sets? The other side of the planet? So does this mean your flat earth has 2 sides? Where is the edge?
This
In fact I bet this picture is cropped it doesn't even look centered, the resolution is non-standard, no information on camera or lens either.
All EXIF data preserved here
mctoon.net
Show us the edge of your flat earth faggot.
Unlike flat Earth, the concave Earth model retains a spherical geometry that allows for accurate R-based calculations, functional GPS triangulation, and internally consistent physics
Flerfs cannot explain flight times
Real eyes
Realize
Real lies
Flerfs cannot explain why the horizon dips
Flerfs cannot explain why we all see the same face of the moon
Does it just not have an edge? The Earth extends an infinite distance is all directions? Why are we not constantly finding new places then?
Flerfs cannot explain why the bottom of mountains disappear
Moon is its own light source
Posts a picture of a full moon as if it wouldn't have shadows in any other phase
This may be the dumbest fucking thing I've ever seen anyone post.
It's just a wall of atmosphere.
What is gravity. What is scale. What is acceleration.
Flerfs will pretend shadows converging "proves" a local sun, but in truth it is just perspective
only shines on floor
The sun can definitely shine on your ceiling, it happens a lot. Here’s a pic of direct sunlight under a soffit, is it lower than a roof of a house?
Flerfs cannot explain stars rotating the opposite direction in different hemispheres
They will try to muddy the waters by talking about left/right and East/West, but the rotation is only explained by a globe
Flerfs cannot explain tides
Here it is lighting the bottom side of the clouds.
Flerfs sometimes do experiments to prove the Earth is not rotating
It does not work out for them
RIP Bob
No it ISN'T A MODEL, MORON. It is a PICTURE.
Sun is below 10K (10,000) miles,
Moon is an unknown object that may be a reflector off the atmosphere, or a plasma ball.
Moon is going around its own trajectory closer to the center around which they both rotate - North pole.
You can add 24 hours recording cameras in several points around the world , record it, and come to a similar conclusion.
Why do lenses focus sunlight like a parallel source if it's close enough for the rays to be considered divergent over a few minutes of latitude? Why does surface irradiance follow the geometry for an illuminated near-spherical surface instead of falling off like the inverse-square law?
The flat earth model would require the sun to look like this, changing size and never setting
This does not match observation
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Fuck every one of you triple-distilled retards. The captcha needs to check if you had a fucking sense of shame...not if you're a bot.
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honey thats a map of a globe.
the moon isnt an uknown object, its the fuckin' moon - you never looked at it through a telescope?
Indeed. Why is the sun stronger at the equator vs the poles on a flat earth?
The whole point, idiots, that you can SEE Elon Musk's satellites at night.
But you shouldn't if there is no sun on a ball model.
you can jegle pictures of Elon's satellites at night.
Ball cult got destroyed yet one more time.
So us the edge of your flat earth.
It's guarded by the government!
So you're telling us that the government can't handle just the border with Mexico but somehow has perfect coverage of a border that literally extends right around the entire planet faggot?
anon satellite flight paths prove the globe, lol.
especially the ISS which is so fuck huge you can see it with your naked eye at night.
see a satellite
is it going in a circle or straight?
straight
there ya go, you just proved the globe.
any satellite will do, they all go in a straight line.
maybe 6 feet aint so far down
Yes, after dusk and just before dawn.
You should maybe come up with an alternate explanation for that which doesn't require that an object with SHADOWS ON IT is its OWN LIGHT SOURCE.
we’ll just say the earth is REALLLLY big and hope no one asks questions…
Kek. Globe gobbers are cringe AF
But you shouldn't if there is no sun on a ball model.
Ballheads believe that this currents picture is caused by a single magic object in the sky - some "Moon" ,
And another jewish magic - gravity.
that holds water attached to the ball
yet in reality when you spin a wet tennis ball in a supposed "gravity" (by hitting it with a tennis racket
, it loses most of its moisture
Some ballheads are uncurable.
R based calculation
Sorry but R value requires a measurement. Not a calculation
All these faggots who think that the Earth has a big cliff that drops off into space or something but literally none of them can show you any evidence for it whatsoever.
africa is on it twice
nice gif of the globe you posted here, sonny.
Hades was supposed to be towards the bottom of the earth in ancient stationary earth model
Alright, flatards
Explain the following
the force that creates downwards acceleration for all objects(except for allegedly flat earth)
how said force doesnt obliterates the earth, fits within conservation of energy and also creates same acceleration on two different objects in a vacuum
where is "down"
light patterns
southern cross
south hemisphere flights(do airliners suddenly go hypersonic here?)
solar eclipses(and their pattern)
lunar eclipses
sailing around antarctica
how do you use flat earth model for navigation
This is the azimuthal equidistant projection all pilots use, and it's a reverse engineering of the globe map which was created using flat earth map data. What do ya know, they use it just fine without problems retard. No serious flat earther claims this map for measuring distances across landmasses, because we know the flaws with it
This picture on the website kind of debunks this picture from the getgo, it has the opposite curve depending on where the camera is pointed or tilted.
I'm afraid this only proves that cameras have distortion.
No, the edge doesn't exist, as I explained to a poltard above.
You going to have Antarctic ice as borders, and then as you go further, MATTER DISSAPPEARS.
basically you will die waaaay or freeze before you reach a point of no matter.
they dont even have a map.
all you have to do to win against flatties is:
show a map
they dont have it, lol.
bet this blows you mind too
Ok, I'm convinced the Jannies are complicit in horseshit like this
They let a retarded flat earth thread get to bump limit on Anon Babble, then right after hit hits page 10, they move it to Anon Babble to get new life
There is no excuse for this, other than well poisoning
Water doesn't act any different than any other matter with regards to gravity. I'm assuming that you're not implying any other forces that would supposedly make water fly off into space act in a special way for water either, because that would be ridiculous. I don't know why water is supposed to be this big "aha" moment... like everything on the face of the earth sticks to it via gravity and it's understood that this force is stronger than any force that would expel us off of the surface, but as soon as you say "water" I'm supposed to suddenly realize how it's all bullshit for some reason.
You have absolutely nothing to prove your assertions
Which assertions are those?
I only talked about zoom and moon phases
gravity
Is just a blind theory
It's not been proven
You are taking a theory and trying to make it a stand in for "magic" as an explanation
Nigger you globies always cry for censorship and moderation
Truth is these threads wouldn't be happening if you faggots would stop making them or shitting them up
You always try the line "who cares what shape it is haha" but keep pulling your hair out over people who don't suck their third grade science teachers dick as hard as you do, WHY?
It's not been proven
Mass attracting mass is verified experimentally thousands of times a year by undergrads
I did it myself
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Mass attracting mass is verified experimentally thousands of times a year by undergrads
I did it myself
You can't explain any of it.
You just have made up ideas why any of it works
Until you have a digital gravity reader then you don't have anything
Just made up excuses on why you think it happens, based on theory with no detectable field to confirm it is its own force or if it's just more electromagnetic frequency as according to Maxwell Clark and electric universe theory(which is more likely)
You cannot explain gravity
Mass attracts mass
Explained by electrons in electric universe theory
Fact is you have nothing that proves gravity because you have no unit of measure or to measure
I hope everybody sees that the flat earth retard ignores evidence presented, moves the goalposts, and just distracts from the fact he got shown up
He's hoping you'll forget to think about the argument and react emotionally to their implications
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You're not nearly as smart as you think you are.
I am not using gravity to stand in for "magic", I am only claiming that gravity does what anyone claims it does (attract objects), and I am claiming that the force of gravity counteracts any other forces that would make us fly off the earth. A stronger force counteracting a weaker force is not magic, it's basic physics that a child could understand.
Can't help but notice you didn't answer what makes water so special, I am genuinely curious.