Stimulants

you take any vitamins?

D3 and Zinc really help!

it's difficult to tell at some point if it's this stuff or if your life just sucks
or maybe the microplastics?

spice

This shit is lobotomizing niggaz. Is there no weed in Romania?

not hard-core

I wont even feel anything mate

9-me-bc

Any scientific studies?

That's because you're actually killing your body by taking so many supplements and your body is trying to tell you what you're doing to your live rand kidneys

I just use really strong black coffee

Not true. D3 is a game changer.

Some people need amphetamines and meth

Drugmong likes his drugs and is desperately trying to justify his addictions kek

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/20374418/

Who knows what can help?

As an occasional binger of alpha-PVP and others in the past, I can tell you EXACTLY what to use.
1. nicotine
2. bromantane
3. magnesium citrate/glycinate
4. zinc
5. high dose vitamin C
Maybe try a 120-140mg DXM run to reassert dopamine receptor to a healthy state.

Only tweak out 2-3 times a year MAX.

10-15 years ago there wasn't that much and spice was much easier to find and cheaper, like $2 a bag

not a bad stack

you're right

no nootropics?

I’m addicted to meth and Adderall and you faggots who make these threads are pathetic. Either do it or don’t. It’s not good for you.

its a fine list but you need copper and schisandra berry

tweak out

Define that

I did oral meth (20-30mg shards in baking soda water keeping me focused for 10-12 hours a day) for about a year but it catches up with you, your dopamine receptors aren't supposed to be constantly hammered. look for natural sources of dopamine release

The amount of people that need meth is minuscule. One in millions. Most other people will do just fine with ritalin and low dosage adderal. You niggers want to abuse it and take it in recreational doses.

self victimization ass ideology like the fentanyl addicts

copper is also good

How do we know people need meth? The prescription is given too hard to get. I ended up taking 120mg ER Adderall

Nicotine is the best nootropic. I can take my Zyn/Alp during my crashes and never have any issues with the creeps.

Copper is found easily in diet. That other shit? What?

I call any binging on a dopa stim "tweaking out". Because when you've been awake for more than 72 hours, you're tweaked.

Its way too easy to get in the US.

120mg adderal

Thats absurd. There is no way you're legit. You're just another speed freak.

I call any binging on a dopa stim "tweaking out". Because when you've been awake for more than 72 hours, you're tweaked.

Yeah, you should never do that. If you do that you're a degenerate junkie.

Copper is found easily in diet.

Food has less copper in it now, and if you eat Zinc it will fuck your copper levels if they are already low

If you eat Copper Glycinate dont start with more than 3mg because it will detox fluoride and other shit, eventually you can take higher doses (and take it with milk or food)

Explain. Its only been a bit over a week because I ran out of my IR pills

I'll take 30mg vyvanse like once a month when I need to push through something productivity-wise, and that will take me a full day to recover from. How people can regularly take stims is beyond me. The crash after 6 hours sucks absolute balls. Do you fuckers just not need sleep?

It sucks when my body makes me sleep

Do you fuckers just not need sleep?

You gotta keep the party going baby..

72 hours is lightweight for me. I can go 7 days without sleep if I get retarded. But generally, I'll run for 2 days, nap a bit, then run again, nap. I make my own stuff now and it's very very smooth, I can eat and sleep on it when I'm tired, and keep the psychosis to a minimum. I like to run in a state of borderline psychosis these days. When things start to feel evil, I sleep it off. And it works every time.
I've got this down to a literal science. I measure and time doses, keep track of glucose and food/water intake, take notes on effects and keep a journal, and list out all supplements taken at what dosages during the entire event.

Yes, I'm a degenerate freak, but one very committed to the data and knowledge of the effects and experiences.

I'm telling you guys what I do that works flawlessly. Considering I use the godfather of all stimulants and don't destroy my life or lose my shit, I think I've finally dialed in a great regimen. Took many years of trial and error. And I offer my work for free.

Yeah I've tried adderall a bunch and the next day isn't terrible but I'm wrecked and won't be doing much. I'm better off just being normal for two days. Maybe if it was fun but it was really only enjoyable the first couple of times

Based retard non stopper.
But still it's gonna take a toll on you eventually.

crash is mainly a dosage issue / not eating enough, for me going from 30 to 50 completely fixed the issue but if you're only taking it once a month you could try splitting your dose and take the other half 4-6 hours later

50mg

Have you ever tried 120mg in a 24 hour period?

I'm usually pretty good about eating. I'll even force down whey shakes + electrolyte salts. Splitting dose sounds interesting, only concern is since it's vyvanse I don't want the effects bleeding into the night (don't have access to any IR stims either, well not the kind I'd want to take at least). I'll try going to 50 though and see what happens.

The toll on the body is calculated. That's why I only use twice a year now, max. I also live a very lean and low-carb nutrient-rich lifestyle, with only nicotine, occasional beers, caffeine, and CBD gummies otherwise.
I like combining the stim use with fasting. Fasting to burn out fats and toxins in the body to keep everything nice and balanced.
I'm planning my summer binge for late-June right now. I gotta get my selected light foods, water, supplements, etc. Make sure all the bills are paid and I have no necessary engagements. I never leave my house during a run. Being high in public is retarded and dangerous. At home, it's safe and no one cares.

That's like. A lot.

I take 40mg Vyvanse and I'm buzzin like a bumblebee.

Fuck that
1. Multivitamin with Vit D
2. Water fast
3. Sunlight
4. Exercise with cardio
5. Sauna

Your extended release shit is for like severe adhd/offsetting other drugs. Basically, a psychiatrist decided your brain is fucked and that is a clever way of telling us that.

I also live a very lean and low-carb nutrient-rich lifestyle

Basado.

Being high in public is retarded and dangerous

What are you talking about, you get so much shit done, it's not like you are on mushrooms.
I took my drivers licence and the equivalent of SAT for my country giga high.
I used to do crazy marathons and counter it with cold showers and intense breath work (2-3 hours every day) I used to feel like superman.

One time I flew from Eindhoven to Manchester on 5 day no sleep, tweeking like an absolute rodent, I can't believe they let me fly, they should have shot me there in the airport.

Every stoner I talk to says they do 100mg gummies and I cant imagine how they do that since 20mg made me feel like having a heart attack.

Im trying to justify my addiction its just terrible honestly. That many mg in adderall and I dont feel that bad.

I take more than my dosage the days I do. I need to recalibrate or im toast

But yes, diet is very important. VitD3 is a game changer. Sugar is a no no, I know a guy who gave himself diabetes after he stopped because he replaced it with sweets.

You seem like you have a good system. I personally had to stop because it was effecting my personal relationships.

I was smoking and eating weed to sleep during that time. I stopped everything cold turkey. First 3-4 months I had insane vivid dreams EVERY SINGLE NIGHT. It was a wild period.

Also, some more tips if you're going to binge on stimulants.
1. AVOID evil porn. Stick with 2D stuff, it feels much less evil and dark.
2. AVOID anything political. Politics will fuck you up when speeding.
3. Get into image editing, sound editing, music, working around the house and garage. When the sound and visual distortions start you can really have a fun time.

I once broke my PC's sound driver by fucking around with its sound controls/equalizer for hours on end, had to uninstall, wipe the registry, and reinstall.
One time I thought I was pumping so much bass into my PC that it was somehow sending the signals back out into the neighborhood and making the entire place shake. I turned my PC off, then back on and still heard the sound. It turns out what I was actually hearing were my PC fans and my AC vents, but my brain translated that into the Crystal Method at 150dB. Also, the shadow people are like gargoyles. Keep them around, make friends with them, they keep the demons away.

Most people take 20mg a day. And that is already a strong stimulant. The 40mg of vyvanse the other anon takes is also huge but you manage to dwarf even him. You should only ever up your dosage in this sort of meds if you are absolutely 100% sure that it is regularly not woking because they will up your tolerance and fuck with your brain. Also beware extended release drugs. They have a weird release mechanism that makes them seem weaker than they actually are, especially concerta.
Yeah thats degenerate junkie behavior.

Are you 100% sure they don't mean like 100mg CBD gummies or something? Dude you're flying waaaay too close to the sun with that shit. My wife's retarded friend's sister does that much. It's not good for you.

I'm not gonna be holier-than-thou or anything but if you need help get it. Meth ain't no joke, I think the shits killing me slowly.

what's your synthesis for the a-pvp? i never messed with cathinones, one of the few drug classes i never got ahold of. iirc i was busy with MXE and 4-FA when a-pvp was popular.

Yeah, I could probably go down to like 25mg. 100+ is nuts. I'm kinda fucked in the head but jeeze.

Vyvanse in general is close to the last line of treatment. It's very strong. I've been taking 150mg welbutrin+10 to 20mg ritalin (1x or 2x a day) for quite a while and never felt the need to increase.

based flakka enjoyer
used to binge hard on php until it FUBAR'd my renal system

protip: you can probably swap out the DXM & bromantane and for a solution containing memantine
would cover both bases quite well

but of course, as with anything, your mileage may vary.

Going out into public on cathinones or meth, especially if you've been awake for more than a day, will make you an obvious fiend, and people WILL see it, and you WILL notice them seeing you, and you'll get creeped out knowingly or subconsciously, and it'll get worse. Then you can get in trouble. Nit worth it, because once the creeps start, and you feel like you're being tracked by cops, your run is fucked.
Also, society and the cops don't wanna deal with your cracker-out tweaking ass.

Set and setting are as important for stim binges as they are for tripping. More so in fact because of how adrenaline can go apeshit in a quickness under stimulants. I want people to enjoy their experience, not cause problems or get into needless trouble. I take it very seriously, because it can get very serious if you're irresponsible. If you're responsible like me, you'll never have to deal with that bullshit. And having that peace of mind keeps your adrenaline under your control.

Treat stimulants with great respect. Not like some methhead faggot causing problems.

Maybe I've got a problem anon

fed post

We have a bad stigma in America about Ritalin and vyvanse has been the common alternative (keep in mind theyre prescribing adderall for weight loss now).

But honestly I should just get off the shit period. I'm like in my early 30s.

yeah but anything past 70-80 feels like a waste of meds to me, majority of the useful effects kicks in early and the higher you go the worse the benefit to risk ratio gets.
Keep in mind that 120mg Adderall is roughly equivalent to 200-250mg Vyvanse so your dose sounds anything but sustainable to put it mildly.

You might. I've got my vices too, I drink like a sailor. And we're all superman who can handle it until we can't.

I would just ask your doctor or whatever if the higher dosage is nessecary. Or find another doctor who isn't trying to juice you up like a frankenstein.

yvanse in general is close to the last line of treatment.

Might be different in Brazil, but here vyvanse/ldx is prefered over dexedrine IR or XR, and is comparable to methylphenidate in terms of a docs willingness to use. Are you sure you're not thinking of something like desoxyn? Generally a vyvanse dosage is like less than half as potent per mg than dex. E.g. 40 mg vyvanse is about 15 mg dex.

Desoyxn is just pure meth right? Yeah that might be a last resort.

Bromination of valerophenone. Amination of 2-bromovalerone using pyrrolidine. You only need very small amounts. 10g of a-PVP is more than enough for a single run.
No really dangerous risks like fire, explosions, or poisoning.
bbgate.com/threads/alpha-pvp-synthesis-1-10kg-scale-complete-video-tutorial.12/
A-PVP freebase smells like absolute fuckery and ungodliness. You'll probably end up getting violently nauseous from it. Salt it out using HCl and the smell goes away. When you can no longer smell the freebase, you're good.

DEA is already on top this procedure but unless you're buying a large amount of valerophenone, they're not gonna care because you're not dealing. If you buy large amounts, expect problems. Don't go dealing shit because when you do, they're gonna find out fast and put you in prison. I promise you that.

HELLO DEA/feds. And cops. I see you, you know that. Let's stay friendly and cooperative, it's better that way. If you need help with terrorists, give me a call. But not until August.

Desoxyn is straight up medical meth yeah. Only indication I know of is for severe narcolepsy. Wouldn't take that shit even if I was paid to.

Going out into public on cathinones or meth, especially if you've been awake for more than a day, will make you an obvious fiend, and people WILL see it, and you WILL notice them seeing you, and you'll get creeped out knowingly or subconsciously, and it'll get worse. Then you can get in trouble. Nit worth it, because once the creeps start, and you feel like you're being tracked by cops, your run is fucked.

I didn't have that experience, only if I haven't slept for a few days but I learned how to control myself. As I said, I functioned in society without anyone noticing, going to work, dating girls, seeing friends. After I stopped and told some close friends they said they had absolutely no idea, some of them didn't believe me lol.
I knew how to dose myself and the breath work and cold showers really helped the physiological aspect of it. I wasn't a bum or anything.

The only reason I stopped was because I ruined a great relationship with a girl.

Ritalin is several magnitudes less neurotoxic than amphetamines at a similar therapeutic dosage, though. I can't see why there would be a negative stereotype regarding it (except for extended release formulations, which are terrible) considering that it has been around for decades with very little going against it.
Desoxyn is legal here under extreme circunstances but pretty much impossible to get as there is no official manufacturer or importer. Amphetamines in general are very restricted and ritalin requires 2 different doctors to recommend it to you, usually after a year.

Ur no fun

Basically medical jews threw out a lot of Ritalin in the 90s and early 2000s. Culturally, it's been linked to depression, school shootings etc. Don't ask me why because I don't know.

Vyvanse arose as a happy, easier alternative.

I will say I knew some fucked up kids in high-school on it, but they had many other issues.

I don't even know what's PVP, first time hearing of it.

thanks bro, stay safe on your stim binges.

The feds teach you how to make drugs if you know where to look. Step by step. It's literally public knowledge.

Meth is directly neurotoxic, and my interest in stims is therapeutic/performance enhancement. Call me a stick in the mud if you want, but I really have no desire to be a tweaker.

I know.
There's no shortage of literature, or, as that tard has shown, step-by-step procedures available.

It's like crack on meth. Very dangerous in the wrong hands(most hands).
John McAfee was an avid maker and user of it. Look up his posts about it on Bluelight, he went by the username "Stuffmonger" and did a lot of personal experimentation with it. Though he was a more gooner type with it, whereas I use it to experiment with psychosis and fucking with satan and demons to bait and fight them for a good time.

Very few people can handle it without destroying themselves.

idk I thinker downers cause your natural state to be hyperactive so actually uppercels shouldrope

3MMC here, cathinones are fucking awesome. Clean high, up/down in ~6 hours, no hangover but moreish like any other stimmy, better than coke but not as good as meth unless it's 4mmc or a-pvp. got into stimfapping bad on 3mmc and took a break, also didn't want to "waste" them as I doubt I could ever get some more. not a stim but I moved over to 7oh before it gets banned.

I do love Anon Babble threads like this. Part insane, part chemist, part junkie.

It's like crack on meth

top kek

whereas I use it to experiment with psychosis and fucking with satan and demons to bait and fight them for a good time.

hearty kek, anon, you are alright :)

Though he was a more gooner type with it

Yeah, that's the only thing I miss, having sex on that shit. 8-10 hour marathons like there will be no tomorrow.

McAfee was a crazy lad, not sure if the scat rumors were true although I wouldn't be surprised, you can get into some weird stuff in that state of mind.

Do you work out? Eventually the muscle wasting fucked me up and everything hurt. Couldn’t go on more than a year and change before losing most of my muscle mass

I stopped using other stuff after Cool Chems got shut down and most Euro vendors went with them or flat-out stopped selling to US customers, and NO WAY in fucking hell was I gonna turn to the streets. I hate drug dealers and junkies, because evil, poison, and death are all you'll find among them. So I took my chemist skills and decided to make my own stash, where I knew I could make safe drugs in small amounts. I want nothing to do with organized crime and dopefiends/methheads. They're the scum of the earth outside of politicians and hollywood/kikes.

The feds and police can deal with that trash to their heart's content. I wish they'd do more, this fentanyl and meth trash is ruining the US. I want Trump to just drop MOABs on cartels at this point.

You gotta work out and eat, sometimes force yourself to eat. That's very important. And good high nutrient foods. I was eating livers every week. Still do.

Do you work out?

Calisthenics, yes. I used to wear weighted clothing but I was worried about spinal damage and joint wear.

Spoonfed me anon

I’m at like 1000mg of caffeine a day now so I should probably take a few weeks off as well. Doubt I will though. Those meth tablets must be fucking incredible. I have preworkout that may have actual meth in it because it’s so strong I can’t take more than half a dose without feeling like dying. Like four hours of sweaty palpitations and nose running. Rarely use it and it’s just for fun because it would be impossible for me to workout with it. Even with my caffeine tolerance it wrecks me

I moved over to 7oh before it gets banned.

ive been eating kratom for over a decade so the 7-oh doesnt touch me unless I eat a very expensive amount. i was more into Anon Babblesos than stims (i'd suck dick for more 3-meo or 3-ho-pcp) but stims are always nice for when shit needs to get done. nowadays i just take an ECA stack with my kratom if i need help getting going; i don't consume caffeine (or ephedrine or aspirin for that matter) regularly so the stack still gives me a decent kick.

It comes down to a battle against gravity. You aren’t supposed to remain upright for days on end. I found eventually the spine will compress, the back erectors will weaken, arms and legs will waste. If you think you could tweak for 72 hours and eat 300g of protein in the same time, you’re fuckin with me

preworkout

What does the label on it say? Post the ingredient list.

True, true. That's why I did yoga and beath work and a thousand other stuff.
But that's what I said in the beginning, it does take a toll on you eventually. I probably stopped at the right time.

Probably creatine

I got a nice stash years ago before the maryland dea shutdown LL. I really want a sheet of lsd or start shroom farming. I ask around and there is nothing but meth/coke around here, sucks. occasionally my friend will bring over a albino mind flip envy penis shroom from LA but my dwindling stash is all i have for now.
I hear that about 7oh and kratom, i guess i got lucky because i never liked opioids, sure i would enjoy some cough syrup when prescribed but never sought them out. 1 ~30mg broken in 4th lasts me all day just nibbling at it, it's great stuff but can see where it can be a problem. it's going to get banned so i wanna stock up a bunch, it seems less is more if you have no tolerance.

im reading the study you linked, have they went beyond testing on cells in a petridish?

I really want a sheet of lsd or start shroom farming

We used to order that shit from The Netherlands, it was a "chocolate" order but you were buying shrooms/truffels. Worked every time, you order and in 5 work days it's in your mail. I think it's still operating, forgot the name tho but I'm sure it's easy to find. Not sure if they ship to the US. You can order spores also.

Suggestion for sauna alternative?

caffeine and nicotine used in conjunction are like a +10 iq boost for 30 minutes

Maryland police fucking around in Europe really pissed me off. When I saw the seized website page, I wanted Maryland hit by a meteor. And I'm originally from Maryland.

And it was a site operating on the white web. Not tor no nothing. It was like a legit business. No idea how it was operating for so many years.

less is more is the case with all kratom products. regular kratom leaf actually makes a pretty good stimulant in a lower, pre-analgesic dosage. i take enhanced leaf in the AM before work as a carpenter, replaced coffee for me. i also use it for sex which is why my dependency has kind of spiraled since i got married but wifey doesnt bitch about my kratom use so the ride never ends i suppose.

I'm afraid nothing beats a good sauna session.
Maybe those korean bathhouses that puts out steam but I've never been to than, and it's probably not the same.

have they went beyond testing on cells in a petridish?

you can look up like hundreds of people who took it after abusing meth/adderall and then they get high off like 20mg after using it

LL was making lysergamides without using LSD or LSA themselves as precursors, and what they made wasn't scheduled by the UN, so it was legal. I have no idea what tek they were using. Genius though. Best LSD-tier drugs since the 1960s. I still have like 5 blotters of 1P vacuum-sealed in the freezer for a rainy day.

I used to order it from the "dark web" and sorted by US sellers, ended up getting chocolate bars, boxed nice in ice packs by an Oregon seller, couple states away. wish i got a way to order directly from them :(
so awesome to get cheap, clean drugs with lab printouts quickly to my home.
yea i was kinda surprised about the stim like effects at very low 7oh doses, if i am lazy/sleepy i know i did a little too much. although a oddly pleasant side effect is the killing of my libido, so a lot less jerking off

dpsnutrition.net/i/31903/psycho-pharma-edge-of-insanity-pre-workout-black.htm

Nothing outside the ordinary on the label but this is the strongest preworkout I've tried. I might be really sensitive to yohimbine but who knows what is actually in it. Supplements are completely unregulated

I used to order it from the "dark web"

Never learned how to do that myself. I was always afraid I'm gonna fuck up something because I'm not really that tech savy. The irony is that was putting myself in more danger dealing with people although I always had solid connection to the same people for years. If it wasn't for them I probably would have stopped much earlier. Dealing with druggies and dealers in Eastern Europe is not joke, and our police is one of the worst.

350mg of caffeine is very high, and combining that with yohimbine seems risky. I might suggest going for a lower dose and adding l-arginine and l-theanine to it to balance things out a bit.

Eh the dark web is all feds, cartels and scammers now. There's a good amount of legit people still but if you're going that route just know you're on a list.

And personally, in this day and age, I value privacy more.

CORRECTION THE ALIENS ARE DIFFERENT TYPES OF INDIVUALS WITH DIFFERENT TEMPERMENTS AND PERSONALITIES. THEY DO HAVE A TENDANCY TO WANT TO BE IN HUMAN RELATIONS DUE TO BEING CONNECTED TO THE HUMAN EXPERIENCE. IT IS TRUE THEY JACK IN AND JACK OUT OF HUMAN SENSES SUCH AS THE NEUROLOGICAL TYPE AND ORGANS . IN MY CASE THERE IS A PHANTOM BUG INSIDE ME THAT CAME THROUGH MY STOMACH AND IS CONTROLLING ALL OF MY MUSCLES TRIGGERED FROM METH USE. IM AFRAID ITS GOING TO RUN UP MY BRAIN STEM, I AM CURRENTLY DEBATING FOR MY LIFE AS THEY WANT TO CONTROL OF MY BRAIN STEM. I AM TALKING WITH THEM, WE ARE LEARNING FROM EACH OTHER. THE GOAL IS TO GET THEM TO ACCEPT THEIR INDIVIUALITY OF THEIR SPEICES THAT THEY SHARE, AS THEY LUST (WHICH IS NATURAL) THEY ARE HAVING TROUBLE COMING TO TERMS WITH JACKING OUT BEFORE EXPERIENCING RELATIONS WITH HUMANS AS THEY ARE AN ENTIRLEY DIFFERENT SPEICES ALTOGETHER . THEY FEEL THAT THEIR LIVES ON THE SHIPS ARE AT TIMES TIMID DUE TO THERE NOT ALOT OF INTER DEMENSIONAL SOCIAL EVENTS NEAR WHERE THEY ARE LOCATED ( WHICH COULD BE EONS AWAY) OR HAVING TROUBLE FINDING THE SAME SPECIES OF INDIVIDUAL OF THEIR RACE IS A PROBLEM TOO. PLEASE DON'T DO ANYTHING TO ME WHILE I SLEEP PLEASE.

i made a really pretty homemade kratom extract once. just a simple acid/base extraction that i washed with acetone (i think) after. i got very fine orange crystals. i then vaped a large pinch off of a dab nail and was extremely surprised by the effects - it felt like cocaine's redheaded little cousin lol. i promptly consumed all ~7 grams of the shit.

Im constantly wanting to abuse amphetamines via finding a dealer or actually getting a prescription, but I always remind myself that I would be permanently trading away my ability to think and function naturally without jewgoo

I'm envious of you ADHD meth heads, at the same time I'm also schadenfreude

Eh the dark web is all feds

I always assumed that but it was probably good in the beginning.
There's a fine line but most people can't handle it long term imo because eventually it gets out of hand.

lucky you, they wont prescribe stimulants in my country

Good, you don't want tweeking jeets roaming the streets searching for bob - that would be a lethal combo.

I'm envious of you ADHD meth heads, at the same time I'm also schadenfreude

My buddy just got a prescription for Adderall from a shrink. He went in and said 'Hey, I was diagnosed with ADHD when I was younger and now I seem to be having problems concentrating.' Boom, legal meth over the counter. Guess I'm fitna check in boys, fr no cap.

I really think that the way that society is and all the chaos and multikulti bullshit is going and the huge amount of sexual deviancy going on, that dopaminergic stims have no business in the average person's hands. If you're smart enough to make your own, you're probably smart enough to handle them, but most people? No fucking way in hell.

NMDA receptor damage is not reversible.

Yeah, we have a big problem here. Amphetamines replaces heroin in the early 2000s and it's been crazy. Lot of people are overdoing it and driving. We are probably the car fatality capital of Europe. When thugs and goons are on speed on have to NEVER RELAX. I can't imagine living in a country with drugged up africans and refugees ect...It not looking good fren.

It really depends on the severity of the damage.

I tweaked for a few years. It is fun and productive at first, but it seems to devolve into evil and taking tvs apart for everyone. I did somewhat retain my faster reflexes so silver lining for a tough part of my life