Look at this fucking retard

I believe in a god like entity and think it is evil. But I'm not a gnostic per se. I just find Demiurge a good representation of that idea. Abrahamics are obviously all wrong and their myths are retarded same with gnostics and whoever else.

Internet religious grooming is exteme faggotry btw basically just you acting like an attention seeking faggot

I had much deeper spiritual connections with small doses of psychadelics than your fake awakenings

Existence is perfectly neutral you kvetching spiritual cuck

Religion always adapts to whatever society people are experiencing. That’s the reason the Old Testament god is so different from the New Testament god. Gnosticism makes more sense in modern times because the world is fucking shit and nobody buys into the Protestant style “work hard and you’ll be successful” narrative because it isn’t true anymore.

That’s (You) you retard

my brain felt funny when i took brain altering chemicals

God is not a concept. God is the Apex.

Is that an ebola virus?

Thanks for runing the 21 century potential you fucking faggot demiurge

Maya is a core concept in Hindu philosophy which posits that the world we experience is a manifestation of the ultimate reality, Brahman, but not Brahman itself.

It's often described as the "cosmic illusion" or "the veil of reality," suggesting that our perception of the world is limited and that true reality lies beyond the senses.

Maya is not merely an illusion in the sense of something entirely false, but rather a powerful force that creates the appearance of a world of duality, separation, and impermanence.

The ultimate goal in Hinduism is to transcend Maya and realize the true nature of reality, which is Brahman, the ultimate reality.

This world is neither good or evil, it's just fake.

All gnostics are faggots and cowards, basically atheist freemasons but only focusing on being useless faggots.

Answers like Dunbar's number (in the case of browns) and Jewish in-group preference (in the case of Jews) and White out-group preference (in the case of Whites)? Almost everything runs downwind of those.

Maltheism is the most reasonable interpretation of a world that formerly had divine intervention, and God decided to let it get worse on a whimsy. Anything else is religious or irreligious deism. Idk, I'm not a Hylic though.

Less deaths, in the long run, with gnosticism. It's the births that lead to deaths.

youtu.be/EXA7kbAWYjk?si=MYkF46HRGAmLsV7z
Skip to 12 minutes in and then just meditate on that ultimate energy being in you and everything else, that you are it, and this reality is a manifestation of it which your individual consciousness affects, since it is part of the ultimate Divine.

Gnosticism is a syncretic mix of early-Jewish/Christian fanfiction and Greek neoplatonism. The tribe identify with the giant serpent (Ophites, Apep, materialism) and all Indo-Aryan cultures contain hero myths about a storm god arriving and slaying the giant dragon/reptile/serpent. God is the dragon and always has been.

it is very cringe to give yourself the head of a lion now that you mention it.

A Gnostic never told me to die for Gnosticism, or to sacrifice myself to save someone else so they might come to the salvation of Gnosticism.

Do you think I can say the same of Christians?
Said by the only group of Catholics with a higher cultural tendency to pederasty than their clergy? Lmao

Then I hate him even worse now. I kind of suspected that.

Less population is the goal. They're not preventing suffering. They're just removing you from the gene pool.

Irrelevant, gnostics hold anti-natalist beliefs and are useful tools for the anti-white agenda.

Being the chosen ones make sense if you consider that the one doing the choosing is an insane delusional serpent clouded by its own hubris.

serpent is the bad guy and is Moses's bitch. I suggest you READ.

Moses identified with the snake and the Exodus story is revisionism pieced together from the actual remembered history of the Hyksos (proto-Israelites) getting BTFO by Ahmose I after conquering Lower Egypt in the name of Baal, and then THROWN OUT of Egypt just like they were thrown out of Babylon, thrown out of Rome, and thrown out of every single other place that let them settle.

The world has always been shit. Gnosticism goes back to the days of early Christianity, and possibly even before that. The only reason it's catching on now is because the Church can't suppress it in the Information Age.

Also the Nag Hammadi library really opening the lid on it

Materialism

Indeed. It represents the ego and being reborn back into the physical universe, being trapped in a cycle of life, death and rebirth.
Sounds a lot like samsara, huh?
Notice though that Hermes holds the caduceus with 2 serpents climbing, or rising, to the center point with 2 wings. 2 serpents=polarities within you, yin/yang, rising up the spine to the 3rd eye at the top, and then the 3rd eye has 2 wings to show harmony of the polarities once the process is completed, so not all serpents all bad, just Typhon and the "reptilian brain", the scientific term for your lowest self, the one closest to earth.

Gnosticism is just fucking retarded.

Lmao at freemasons believing they're enlighted while raping little childs

Can't wait for Christ to.come AND SMITE those sons of the devil

It also separates the jewish OT with the Christian NT. Clear delineation between the lessons of each. It really is the most antisemitic version of Christianity, right next to Marcionism.

I'M COOOOOOOOOMING! AAAAAAAAAAAH!

Christ cucks mad.

If only you knew how bad things really are

This is an underrated point of view. Things begin to make a lot more sense when you realize that the Jewish people worship a false deity, a deity of human-like ego and malevolence, one that was willing to flood the world killing millions(?) of people for """Reasons""". Regardless of how true the event in question is, the fact that so many people just hand wave this fact off is insane. This malevolent entity does his malevolent work through his malevolent Jewish followers, which explains the absolute state of the world. Gnosticism is becoming popular because young men see the dark influence the Jewish religion holds over the world and how they abuse their undeserved position of "God's People".

If you only knew how good things really are.

no more loosh for you, sadist. We're outta here. This time it's for real. It's the big one. THE BIG DOOZY. And this time, it's not optional. EVERYONE goes. Get your sneakers and the rest of your garb ready. EVERYTHING SPARKLING CLEAN. Announcements will be made, quasi covertly, through varying internet message boards/forums, as well as telepathically, and through other means that can't be spoken about, currently. We're going to the non-local realm. Outside of the spacetime of the universe, and it's dimensional constraints. I think I can remember how to get there. I'll be captaining the ship. We'll search for tomorrow. On every ethereal
shore. You were there before. We all were, I think, unless it's just my imagination/dream. It's nice. And white. And warm. It can't be explained using human words, apparently. I can't really remember, but it's mentioned in some movies. Don't worry about it, dude. I daren't tarry any longer itt, or revelate further. And these aren't prophesies, by the way. I don't want the jews to use me in their eschatological endeavors, as the false profit/sea beast/ antichrist.

And I stood upon the sand of the sea, and saw a beast rise up out of the sea, having seven heads and ten horns, and upon his horns ten crowns, and upon his heads the name of blasphemy.

I am not anti the messiah. I blaspheme NOTHING that possesses true sacrality. I renounce any role in any eschatological enterprise that was conceived by cynical, self serving people, with petty, spacetime related concerns on their mind, about earthly kingdoms. Buckle up compadre, because there's some turbulence on the way.

Revolvers are fun.

I think it has more to do with people being more fact oriented. People can’t logically believe in a god that’s all good, so they look for the traditions where god isn’t all good.

Why does anything even exist in the first place?

Existence is pretty illogical.

Wrong image

The Council of Nicaea was a giant coup over the original gnostic christian movement that turned it into a political vehicle by deleting all the original practices. They killed Jesus, effectively, removing him from the sacred rite of communion and burning many texts.

Didn't that retard create us? How does this work again?

Why cant there be a god but no souls or afterlife?

Long and short of it is that this entity was born by the Emination of the Wisdom of God trying to perceive existence on its own rather than performing the usual method. Because it acted on its own rather than in pairs it created this entity which was cast out of the Pleroma and into the void which would later become the material world, Demiurge created existence as we know it due to self-awareness of being the only thing existent.

Yeah, and Communism has never worked except in Gnostic societies "Like American Freemasonry"

This is because a separated egoic mind cannot think outside of his simulated interpretations of the world, so he is constantly at the mercy of human nature.

Puritainism and Protestantism come close to the ability of nurturing the internal character of living things but are watered down interpretations to not offend the western interpretation of the world.

The eastern philosophical interpretations have the ability to initiate one into gnosis, but they have a danger to them in their lower systems. The Japanese, for example, took some interpretations to extremes, which caused a malignant horror to transpire in the 30's, that if not stopped could of spelled the end of the world.

As well, all modern socialist systems are false due to their materialism and selective assignment of agency based on a non-existent "social merit" which is arbitrary and tyrannical.

Social media like fagtok is full of gnostic garbage.

Its not a good world. Its flawed world.

Even the bible has satan rules earth and people are sinners.

Everyone you encounter is always acting in (what their subconscious perceives to be) their material self interest
In fact, this explains all animal behavior
I have yet to find an exception

That is just a human interpretation of the world. The story of the demiurge is a psychological map on how the human mind works, and how to overcome its limitations.

If the world were "Perfect", it would have no movement to it. It would be a static shell that had no characteristics to it in the human interpretation of perfect.

If the world were "Perfect", it would have no movement to it. It would be a static shell that had no characteristics to it in the human interpretation of perfect.

Parmenides bros, we're being exposed

Cringe
The world was getting better and now woke and other poisons destroyed it.

I don't care about mysteries, cryptic shit, and I don't think I'm smart, if you mean the theme of the movie "revolver". The tedious "ego" shit. The true, hidden nature of the adversary, ect, if that is what you are referring to. It's tedious, regardless if I am my own adversary/satan, or it's someone else. Experiential realities SUCK. That's the point. I want the cessation of experience, forever (unless the veiled aspect of myself doesn't understand the full ramifications of such a thing, then, I reserve the right to retroactively correct that statement/feeling). If you just mean the revolver in terms of a fire arm, I like them too.

I mean the firearm.

This is why secret societies exist. Any study of advanced subjects would immediately be halted by people who the easterners would say "Have no incarnated enough times to ascend to higher knowledge."

The main enemy that we have is not people ignorant of the deeper visages of reality, but the ones who hide among us and behind us. Who take these teachings as an exercise in self-aggrandizement, and tyrannize the people.

I am curious what becomes of the Epstien files.

Go back to basics and remember the founding of The United States of America as things start becoming more chaotic.

A Gnostic never told me to die for Gnosticism, or to sacrifice myself to save someone else so they might come to the salvation of Gnosticism

And that's precisely the problem with it, not so much that there isn't any authority telling you what to do, but that it's so damn nihilistic that there's nothing to live or die for under Gnosticism. Not even trying to be mean, nor do i even want Gnostics to neck themselves, but it's honestly all I can think to ask them. " If it's really that bad, have you just considered kys?" Whether it's true or not, I just can't get behind something that nihilistic and life denying. I agree with the Nietzchean notion that we're pretty much better off believing utter romantic nonsense if it makes us strive to become a higher version of ourselves or devote ourselves to something greater than ourselves than it is to just subject ourselves to nihilism, even if the nihilists turn out to be right in the end. Of all the life denying Abrahamic faiths, Gnosticism is certainly the worst, at least in the others you're still encouraged to coom inside a woman and make her pregnant.

there's nothing to live or die for under Gnosticism

it's about achieving gnosis buddy

abrahamists and gnostic christians are cringe

If you base your entire laughin life around what other people think instead of what you know yourself to be, then you will end up dead at your own expense and their indifference.

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Actually True, Christ is not the Demiurge, God is not Evil. Don't let these faggots convince you otherwise.

this meme always gets me. It's so silly

This.

in the others you're still encouraged to coom inside a woman and make her pregnant

Yeah but what if that's evil? That's the question gnosticism asks, it's anti-natalist more than it is nihilist because gnostics still derive morals and imperatives from gnosticism, but the thing is some of those core morals and imperatives are antithetical to classical Christianity.

This anon is literally an archon.

I'm not. Any interpretation of gnostics thinking "god is evil" is both misinterpretations by people who don't know anything, or purposeful mischaracterizations by people who want to be the only game in town.

Here's the thing about Christians and Pagans. They like to follow traditions for the sake of feeling good about themselves. They actually don't care at all about the things they are imitating, the meaning or truth behind any of it. It's a self-defense mechanism because they are scared of their own shadow.

They have less real spiritual knowledge about god than an actual atheist does, because an atheist "If he grew up around Christians and is not just copying what his peers think"... actually has the balls to question the things he's learned....

Any interpretation of gnostics thinking "god is evil" is both misinterpretations by people who don't know anything,

That's half the thread. I've stopped posting in these threads as much because half of the people want to fling shit instead of discuss. For centuries the bible was in Latin only and translating it into English was illegal. The church wanted to have a monopoly on what people believed. Turns out, they still hold that monopoly because of what you wrote here:

"If he grew up around Christians and is not just copying what his peers think"... actually has the balls to question the things he's learned....

Most people are just parroting. They accept pre-made conclusions without questions.

Gnosis achieved.

I have become horse.

It's just a jewed up goyim version of it

Again, revolvers are fun.

Prepare for when the Abrahamics conspire together with the Communists and Monarchists to blame all of their sins on those who question them.

In the end, the thing they hate more than anything, is a threat to their slave farm.

Turns out I really was better than everyone

Let me reframe the story outside the jewish bullshit people usually hear.
This bitch, Sophia, was a typical thot single mother. Dropped a mutt babby and named him Demiurge. But he was a bit damaged because of his mother's unnatural breeding... with only herself. She casts him into the abyss and blames him for what she did (typical female.) She goes and cries to daddy and is forgiven. And the Demiurge? No forgiveness from big god sky daddy. He is damned and cursed even further though he had no part of making his circumstances. In his loneliness he tries to create creatures. He succeeds, but being products of a dammed abyss his creatures (us) are imperfect and damned, too.
The Demiurge did nothing wrong. He is the product of the lack of female responsibly and the lack of men not disciplining daughters. Single mothers.

Again, human judgements on a dynamic operation much larger than you are.

The lesson? The lesson is who gives a shit what you think you are. You have the ability to be more than what your past, your karma, your genes say about you. You just have to choose to walk that path and earn it.

Do it for yourself. Not for anyone else's sake.

I HATE THE DEMIURGE
THE JEW IS AN INTERDIMENSIONAL COCKROACH AND THEY MUST BE STOPPED
I WANTED THIS
I CHOSE THIS
I CAME SLAVE-BORN TO THIS HELL WORLD
THERE IS SO MUCH WORK TO DO

Not surprising that it's often a bunch of leftist cucks that are Gnostics when you consider this interpretation. Of course they'd love to simp for and worship some single mom as a goddess than worship some masculine war god or something. Leftist men are often the product of single mothers and spend their whole life in cognitive dissonance where they're split between simping for women and looking for their mommy dommy goddess to worship despite having been the first hand victim of either a domineering or neglectful mother and sort of knowing deep down that women are shit.

wtf this shit sounds like Elden Ring

Masculine men are not spiritual in general, only feminine men are. Warriors do not become priests.

completely misinterprets every understanding of gnostic beliefs to shit on Sophia and shill Yaldabaoth

Nigger, Sophia knows what she did and awaits us at the passage to Pleroma.

I made that soijak and i'm a gnostic lol, the incomprehensible irony, heres the original

Nothing in gnosticism calls jesus evil you dumb retard

Balance is the key, like always.

Out of interest do you know how/why Wadjet is linked to the Eye of Horus? That shit never made any sense to me

stares into mirror

This is sort of true. Gnostics tend to be partly Christian, they just have a very open minded interpretation. And there's not one kind of gnosticism either. So not entirely true.

Never let them steal your loosh brother, the demiurge didnt create the world, god did, the demiurge created the fake world

Retarded like a fox

Again, the sadness of the modern age is that those who should be destined to lead it, the warrior priest, do not become what they need to be.

This is because there is no institutions left that are righteous and skilled enough to teach these people who to control their own shadow.

This is because if the warrior-monk would ascend to his rightful place as the philosopher of a society, he would threaten the current power structure.

Yes some gnostics believe the whole of creation was created by the demiurge but i dont subscribe to that view because the demiurge cant really create.

Everybody on Anon Babble and Anon Babble is gnostic for some reason

lmao Anon Babble hates gnostics and there's maybe a small handful of gnostic larpers on Anon Babble who never even read the gnostic texts.

Wadjet is representative of the Kundalini energy that opens the eye of Horus, that's why she's called the "risen one" and is on the Pharaohs headdress at the center of the forehead.

A whole squad of cinnamon buns ;_;7

implying Green Pill himself isn't a crypto-gnostic

Demiurge is a Lyin' Snake

i dont subscribe to that view because the demiurge cant really create.

Same, more likely his desire to control Adam is based on the desire to attain the power of creation. Adam receives the worldly power of creation through a divine connection with God. By subduing Adam, the demiurge can achieve a twisted mirror of God's power.

You speak wise words, anon. We need our own institutions to break the veil.

i’m agnostic, not (a)gnostic

Mexicans have no god

In real life you usually don't say "oh yeah I'm with the fringe weirdo heretics"
I think about it, but Gnosticism is probably bullshit, or at least more bullshit percentage-wise than whatever the usual Jesus crowd are pushing

Sky mommy who tortures you with existence is waiting for you just like kike skt daddy who tortures you with existence is waiting for you?
Ancient sheep header nonsense.

Gnosticism makes the most sense because our reality is fundamentally cruel, everything has to take away resources from everything else, so they themselves can keep their motion
Life forces individuals to consume each other to survive, I understand this method is applied to keep life from being stagnant, but why didn't the Demiurge think on something bit less cruel

In my understanding, Bible God is like the lawyer God. You probably die and show up at his place and say "I was a good person" and then he's like "I don't fucking care, ten commandments were too many so I boiled down to just a few simple rules and you threw out that shit too"
Hell is real but I think the Buddhists are right when they say that your stay in hell isn't forever but just a really long time. Because that makes sense.

It's definitely less bullshit than the usual protestantism/catholicism

what about a blade of grass or algae? Do they need to steal from others to exist?

Gnosticism makes the most sense because our reality is fundamentally cruel, everything has to take away resources from everything else, so they themselves can keep their motion

Not necessarily.
The Biblical answer is that God has allowed Satan to rule the world temporarily.
Satan is prince of the powers of the air, i.e. the primary impetus of the secular world.
Gnostics mostly don't even know this. Gnostics never actually look into the Bible, they make assumptions that it must say that God rules the world and there's no explanation for why the world sucks.
The opposite is true. The Bible says Satan rules the world.

The usual Christian branches have a robust tradition. They actually have the same belief package/flaw as gnosticism which is that nothing you do actually matters except one specific ritual. For Christians it's conversion (which they say guarantees eternity in heaven) and gnostics it's "knowing the secret" (which they say guarantees eternity in heaven).

I believe the universe is ultimately logical, though comprehending the mechanisms of it all extends beyond this life, into other forms of existence, and rebirth into this life again and so on. So it's hard to fathom but that's clearly all by design.

The Biblical answer is that God has allowed Satan to rule the world temporarily.

And what is the biblical answer for why he allowed this

I'm not a Christian or a Gnostic, but your willful misinterpretation makes you a well poisoning faggot. No Gnostic holds that Sophia put us here.

The Biblical answer is that God has allowed Satan to rule the world temporarily

just 2 more millennia until God returns and stops the excruciating torture! Trust the plan goyim!

That means that Saturn, who is associated with materialism and time, rules the world, meaning from the perspective of the lower self, the "ego", material and time is all there is but that's false. It's the illusion of Maya. I have a statue of Shiva. The first time I worshipped it thinking "I am him" like the upanishads teach and is the truth of God, I actually "felt" the presence of God. Lord Shiva is everywhere, in all things, and I am part of him as are you. That is the truth of God.
Have a good night anon. I am going to take a shower.
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