Profiting from your hard work is bad because you might end up with a little bit more than someone else who didn't...

Profiting from your hard work is bad because you might end up with a little bit more than someone else who didn't work as hard, and that wouldn't be fair or something

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Profiting from your hard work is good because you might end up with a little bit more than someone else who didn't work as hard, and that would be fair according to the labor theory of value, a "major pillar of traditional Marxian economics"

Do you know how many people died to rid the world of communism? Do you know how many people were killed by communism? This cancerous fucking ideology ravaged our world and killed entire generations of men and women and children. For a century, they tried over and over again to make Karle Marx's ideas work in real life and it failed over and over again every fucking time killing millions of people in the process and causing unfathomable human suffering. And still, there are retards who want to keep trying it. it's like a honey pot. It's like a drug. It's like fentanyl. it just keeps ensnaring people over and over and over and over and over and over and over and they never ever ever ever learn. Like the racial grievance that Nazism plays on, envy of those who are more fortunate is a fundamental part of the human condition and it can never be totally extinguished. It just haunts us forever.

Do you know how many people died to rid the world of capitalism? Do you know how many people were killed by capitalism? This cancerous fucking ideology ravaged our world and killed entire generations of men and women and children. For a century, they tried over and over again to make Jeffrey Epstein's ideas work in real life and it failed over and over again every fucking time killing millions of people in the process and causing unfathomable human suffering. And still, there are retards who want to keep trying it. it's like a honey pot. It's like a drug. It's like fentanyl. it just keeps ensnaring people over and over and over and over and over and over and over and they never ever ever ever learn. Like the class grievance that Communism plays on, envy of those who are more fortunate is a fundamental part of the human condition and it can never be totally extinguished. It just haunts us forever.

But what if you profit so much from your labor that you become a member of the bourgeois? then you'll have more stuff than other people, and that would be unequal! Oh, but no one could possibly get rich without exploiting other people (otherwise known as hiring employees) otherwise known as exchanging labor for capital and exchanging capital for labor in a market economy in a system known as capitalism. also, religion is false, and there is no God. That total non sequitur religion hatred marks was such a huge fedora tipping faggots atheist who had such a hate Boner for religion. He couldn't stop ranting about how much he hates God, even in his economic theories he can't stop talking about how much he hates God. God, I wish Karl Marx had killed himself instead of writing his retarded fucking book. Oh my God, I wish I could travel back in time and kill Karl Marx. I would kill him even if he was a baby. I would be saving the lives of hundreds of millions of people. is stupid cancerous ideology smothered in its cradle never to ravage the Earth and kill millions of people. Of course, something else would just take It's place. Probably something even worse.

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The left can't meme.

Marx’s hate of God especially makes no sense because most atheists believe in evolution, and communism goes directly against the culling of the weak, which is an essential piece in evolutionary theory.

the left are, the commies you fucking idiot.

Bunk theory of value spouted by worthless idiots like Keynes, go dig a hole in th ground, fill it up and dig the same hole again, that the monetary value of your labor. Anything else assumes you actually use capital like a good dog
Jesus you could have just said kill all commies like normal people
Every single and last one of them was either a bioleninst, thus deserving to die or a complete retard thus deserving to be jailed at an insane asylum until their leftism is cured

Rousseau, hegel and Kant were mistakes and the legacy chimpout of 1783 has been a disaster for humanity.

Abolish IP

Make actual property rights the first law in the constitution, second being that no man is was or ever will be equal to another

abolish all centralization unless absolutely necessary

hang anyone who proposes taxes go beyond 5% of the wealth of the country

Total Leftist Death

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Do you know how many people died to rid the world of communism ack ack ack

nobody is taking your toothbrush.
Don't hire and don't profit of labor of others and everything is fine.

they're not 'easily preventable deaths'.
if it's so easy to prevent, why don't you, share some of your vast wealth with the fucking africans?
or do they not count?

capitalism is not interested in developing AfrIQa it is marginally interested in workforce migrants from there and that's it.

the question isn't about capitalism, the question is about you.
if it's so easy to prevent these deaths, what's stopping communism from preventing those deaths?

you are being disingenuous, you aren't even trying.

We should help people

Communism

You HAVE to hand over everything you have to "help people" by funding a bloated bureucracy or its digital alternative

You have no right to your actual wealth, we decide what is yours or not depending on whomevers worthless labor was wasted the most on it

Yeah real smart dumbass please check which countries have problems like poverty and lack of means and which countries are heaven on earth places every chink,spic or nigger desperately wants to live in

TLDR

Charity by its nature cannot be mandatory otherwise its theft, you have 0(zero) claims on someone elses property or wealth, no one is obliged to help anyone by anything other than their conscience and any other dictates are an assault on their rights

Oh but im a nigger so i just see starving niggers and not whiteys rights

You deserve to starve and die horribly, rhe mistake of british Industrialists was to pick up the poor and destitute from the farms and trade with them a job in which they can save money for their work.
labor+capital=value with neither labor nor capital having any value by themselves. This made journos possible.

This disase was blind to any reality and focused on how tewwible it was that the now not starving to death peasants were able to save money and demanded, as if the money was theirs from their cozy urban homes the industrialists pay solely for the worthless labor instead of the natural, balancing act of the market.

Since the capitalists actually listened to journos Britain now is currently desperately trying to starve itself by killing off the Kulaks like the communist shithole it will be

you're dodging the question. now answer it.

how does any of this fucking shit relates to how relations of productions under capitalist system result in unfair redistribution of wealth?

You seem to think I am some neo-libshit

gee i wonder why.
it's almost like the vast majority of modern communists are or something.

modern communists

are le libshits

read Marx and tell me where his ideas align with these of the libshits

it doesn't matter.
fact is, they represent your movement now as they represent the majority of it.
tough tits. when people look at you, they will see a libshit. we didn't make that happen.

you're trying to force it through.
nobody confuses libshits and Communists.

no, i'm really not.
you're coping, because you don't want to be conflated with these nutjobs. you're a *special* nutjob.

for chuds anyone to the left of Trump are le communists

yeah, and that's something you have to live with.
'chud' just means most people to you. most people, see you as a sad, greedy headcase who just wants other people's stuff because you never had anything to begin with.

Most people own nothing and the billionaires are telling them to be happy.
Are you one of the billionaires? Telling my Comrades on Anon Babble to eat ze bug and live in perpetual debt?

most people on your side are lefty retards

YOU MUST BE A JEWISH BILLIONAIRE TRYING TO DEMORALIZE ME, HUH?

no dude, i'm just trolling you and it's working.

and it's working even doe:

you talk like a nigger, and you're trying to tell me you're not this libshit faggot people see you as.
not helping your case.

Aren’t all trolls disingenuous? Isn’t that the point?

doe is a nigger word even doe came from incel tranime forum

I am a geminin troll, since I have an agenda to push

uhm, i'm not a nigger

i'm an incel tranny

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geminin
You really are not good with words, are ya?

two posts by that id

took to phoneposting to advance your 'points'?

I just got here, you’re a schizo lol.

deflecting again

many such cases!

So how does capitalism go about defending onlyfans whore earning more money than construction workers.

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it doesn't.
wealthy gooners are willing to pay for onlyfans crap, not to mention women are never too far away from simps and orbiters.

Not a shitlib

You misunderstand the nature of your ideology. Its liberalism->Communism->Fascism
See "Liberte, Equalite, Fraternite"
Communism builds on top of shit libbery(all men are "equal" nonsense)
And adds its own(all wealth is "equal" nonsense) and the logical end point is the realization of this which is fascism(all men and wealth of our nation is equal nonsense) as;

shitlibs act as this ideology comes second to what was for their vanguard ideology

Commies go full ham and would do anything including theft murder and rape to prove the ideology which at this point is basically a religion

The stickmen are this ideology adapting to reality enough to the point it does not immediately destroy the host society

Unfair (re)distribution of wealth

Wealth would have to be unfairly distributed in the first place for a redistribution to be considered,. Im saying literally your entire ideology alongside libs and fascists are completely wrong and were a mistake to begin with
You have no rights over someone elses property and are frankly worthless unless you make something(Labor+Capital=work(all three of these are valued subjectively and are inherently risky due to acting with potentials as humans aren't omnipotent)

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Then maybe the goverment should regulate that. If no laws exsisted there would be a demand for child sex slaves, but we don't allow that to happen. Wish people were less retarded, then it wouldn't matter which ideology people believe in.

Then maybe the goverment should regulate that.

well, they can't and they shouldn't.
women have the right to freedom of speech. censorship is always wrong. get over it.
women can pay rent with pictures of their feet, that doesn't mean you should go running to the mods of society like a sad redditor it means you should start criticizing these women.

If women can pay rent with their feet and men have to work harder to pay the same rent that creates inbalance in society. Everyone should play by the same fair rules. People who cheat on the rules should be punished.

honestly, did you seriously compare child sex slaves to pictures online?
get over yourself, ritsu.

They both are just different levels of the same line of enlightenment thinkers which were by themselves wrong to begin with
There is very little difference between a state and a corporation, the ideal nation would be %90 self employed like america back when it was becoming a superpower
It calls the whore and her community(likely family) retards and jacks off to it for free on the internet until they ban her from doing so as women and children aren't adult people who should be deciding things under normal circumstances desu.

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I gave an extreme example to make it more clear to you. If women used to not sell lewd pictures of themselves, but now they do that a lot. What impact does it have on society do you think? If just inflation is fucking up the economy, imagine how this is fucking up the culture.

pay rent

rent is one million dollars a month

wowzers, that's a rent where exactly

So capitalism can ban stuff? Sounds super commie to me. You shouldn't infringe on a womans liberty

Everyone should play by the same fair rules.

equality, is not realistic.
you need to get over that, too. some things are easier for women, and some things are easier for us. that's life.
what you people refuse to accept, is that life is not fair. you cannot do anything to change that reality.

We make the justice. Instead of just kicking a pebble to the side and say "Oh no reality is unfair". We have courts to make sure we are creating as much fairness as possible. Women shouldn't be able to pay rent with their fucking feet

niggers have an average IQ of seventy.
it's real easy for you to say 'make everything fair, everyone should be equal' in a racially homogenous society.
not all of us are so lucky, ritsu.

Nigs having an iq of 70 doesnt excempt them from laws even if they are 70 iq. Women shouldn't be whores and people should follow proper conduct. You can cry a river about how Norway is more racially homogenous, doesn't mean shit. Your country doesn't practice true equality it is a jew owned slave state.

Okay, just don't force unwilling people to participate in government

The criminals would just leave

Yes they would be outlaws which are not defended by law and only by the consciences of people they interact with, ideally no would be held accountable if an outlaw was shot

This would allow for tyrants

The outlaw can also declare a new state and have other people voluntarily secede along with their property Which turns this into an international court case and maybe war depending on the context
There is a whole caviat about having a higher state to dictate that the basic law of voluntarism would be applied via its calling to arms of other states under it but too long so just go look at the HRE and think on how you would improve it alongside a better foundation to start of your choosing

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buying assets, getting rent from your 273 properties you inherited by doing absolutely nothing and having people slave for you while the only thing you contribute is giving capital that'll come back into you hands multiplied is hardwork because... it just is, OK???

I think his point was you can’t really make society easier for niggers because that would be making it harder for anyone not retarded.

Okay, just don't force unwilling people to participate in government

This is unlikely a good thing. If goverment can just let people form their own goverments on whims tyrannies can easily take over. A lot of the time people don't take rational choices. People create this misconception that humans take the first most logical rational choice every time. This is what happens when you use markets who are based on rational choices for profit towards political systems which aren't based on rational choices often.
First on the nigger question. You have a group of people who were slaves for generations. Bred like cattle. Then suddenly freed up. The instutions supposed to help them to vote and such were sabotaged by KKK and the democratic party. Their living standards, way of living being that of a second class citizen. Then you expect them to be on par with the white people who have been basically leeching off of them and getting all the best spots in society.

A communist state can operate under an lolbert(super capitalist) state as an extreme example yes(for 1ms before they chimpout and attack everyone)
This is pure envy, those properties aren't yours by default

Ideally build your property somewhere else or buy for an agreed price between you and the NEET richfag

But im not allowed to do so

That is the problem we need to solve i believe. I blame the incentives for certain industries being funneled from the rest of the economy and the consequent heavy taxes

which realistically benefit the afro mentioned rich NEETs party member father

A solution might be to end monetary incentives for industries and for already paid incentives to be paid back directly to the people as proportional to the taxes they paid for it

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Oh whatever. Africans who live there were not bred to be slaves.

You make it sound like a revolunary thing that a country is under dominion of another country. A commie state could never exsist under a super capitalist state just like vice versa. They would directly threaten each other. With federations/unions, the weaker country has to be kept under a thight leash.
Yes they weren't bred to be slaves, but were under colonial rule. Having most of their intellectual elite wiped out only having a few leaders left who were directly working with europeans. African states turned into slave hunting states because of high demand from Europe. They had no time be self suffiecent when under dominion of foreign powers. It's like if aliens took over europe, then for hundreds of years they have lost anyone capable of running the country. Now serbs and russians and italians have to make and share a single goverment.
Just take Belgium's Congo as an example of how africa was just a resource for europeans. As for iq shit. African immigrants to US have higher grade averages than afro americans.

African immigrants to US have higher grade averages than afro americans.

well, the statistic of niggers having an average IQ of seventy, was from africans.
so, i can't imagine afro americans are doing so good.

Muh iq

According to iq and the flynn effect all of our ancestors were more stupid than us. I don't trust random iq statistics.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/African_immigration_to_the_United_States

African immigrants to the US are among the most educated groups in the United States. Some 48.9 percent of all African immigrants hold a college diploma. This is more than double the rate of native-born white Americans, and nearly four times the rate of native-born African Americans

In 2019, 42% of sub-Saharan African immigrants age 25 and older held a bachelor's degree or higher, compared with 33% for all foreign- and U.S.-born adults combined.

So they have an average iq of 70 but are more likely to have a bachelors?

I don't trust random iq statistics.

i don't care how much stock you put in it. these are the facts.
what's also a fact, is that DEI exists.

As i said i think the HRE is a good base to start off with this question. The monopolization of government should be avoided while basic authority should exist
It would be the:

Local government which can be replaced as you said on a whim

Provincial or intermediary governments which are locals interacting with each other, less authority but binding legality to its constituents until they or their local gov secedes

Super fed government which has up to 10-20 laws max and is mainly concerned with as you said the system not getting toppled by tyrants, has very little authority but is legally binding and cannot be seceded from, ideally a theological claim or head of government

Note that states are also mostly interchangeable with corporations as one is political union and the other is an economic union
No what im saying is that a communist state principally would be allowed to exist under a super capitalist state until it aggreses while a super communist state would actively hunt capitalists
One has freedom of thought and the other does not. One is legalist and just while the other is realist and arbitrary

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Surely it's DEI. They give college degrees out freely like candy to everyone who is black these days apperently. In your world most black people have basically down syndrome level intelligence and yet are all just handed college degrees. Fuck me

once again, it's really easy to spout this crap when you live in a country where you don't have to deal with niggers on a daily basis.
fuck off, ritwit.

Not an argument.

Niggers should be exempt from white governments. They should be let to segregate as both them and the whites want
The laws you are talking about are basic bitch stuff, the jews managed with 10 and the romans 12 of these for centuries. It's disingenuous to say that these are the same as the books worth of totalitarian dictates commies spout. In fact we should be able to do with less of these universal laws for effective government rather than more and more specific laws by which can be handled by locals as seen fit

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Capitalism is a class system, not an economic system
Let's say I have 2m$ in stocks and the value of those stocks raises to 4m$
Where did the 2m$ extra come from?
The government printed it. I get it because I have wealth and you don't.