Zenless Zone Zero or something

Thoughts on the upcoming 2.0 updoot?

Death to SEA pedos.
GET TARIFFED GET TARIFFED GET TARIFFED GET TARIFFED GET TARIFFED GET TARIFFED

Fuck, I'm scared

Glad for Ellen buffs but i want more Belobog characters

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Do not be afraid

I've never liked a single chinese zone in these games, I hope this one breaks the pattern

Alright, are we seeing a complete u-turn away from TV's at this point? Will they just remove the HDD system altogether and turn Wise and Belle into in hollow Proxies now?
Is this a good thing or is it a bad thing?

I'm excited for 2.0.

They are removing hdd

The american who originally posted this said he'd get back to us with info. What are we expecting?

I am cautiously optimistic.

Nothing honestly

I guess I should say, are they going to do another restructuring of all the older content to shift their new aims? Or are they just going to leave 1.0-2.0 untouched? Which at that point would be an entire removal of the HDD system.

thread instantly goes to shit after a 14 minute dev talk

I'd hate to see what it'll look like after the XBOX livestream.

I don't really care. I started playing because of Billy/Lycaon/Soukaku's designs, not Fairy and Eous.

Can't say for sure. On one hand, tvs were the cornerstone of the game and had some bright moments, on the other it was a fucking slop. I still didn't clear Arpeggio, because I can't firce myself to slog through that shit. I'm just disappointed that I won't be able to run around as my little nigga Eos.

Utter hell
The teaser on the 14th will be a even worse kind of hell

Arpeggio did suck, but that was because by then the TV devs were cut and told to wrap up what they had and push it out the door.
Otherwise yeah, your sentiments match mine.
Do you feel like there's any way this can be spun where we still retain a lot of the good from TV's and lose the bad?

Henlo bwos, I'd rate that short video a 7.5/10. I want to see more of the new area, I kind of like the one building screenshot. Yi Xuan looks like long hair Anby, what's up with that?

agents ftf?

wuxia wank faction and region

the rest of OBOL

idols

Looking forward to see the rest of soulbol. I'm indifferent towards idols but they always had a loud minority of supporters, so good for them.
Not great but far from terrible.

Actually engaging puzzles maybe, but knowing that the average gachatard can't even do a mirror movement puzzle, I have no hope. That one classic RPG quest and Pokemon one was also somewhat good, but again, average gachatard. This game's falling is that it is a gacha to being with.

MY NIGGA IS COMING

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She's the base for the anbyclones

The 5th gen ACposter is a phillipino

You are aight SEAboy

hopefully there'll be more than that on the 13th

Well what did we get in 1.X?
Neps, soc, s6 as 3 full factions. Stars, obol and heckingbird as only 2 agents.
I'm thinking most likely we'll have the same 3 full factions, 3 part factions in season 2 to keep the same schedule. Doubt much will be disclosed on 13th as we had no idea about 3 extra factions from second half at the start of season 1.

Full faction trailer would be nice.

I liked the dev talk. Hope the chinawank won't be too bad but otherwise I'm looking forward to seeing where this all goes. Not a big fan of Eous being sidelined after Fairy just disappeared after 1.4 but that's life without TVs I suppose.

I'm looking forward to impregnating my wife bwos

I hope they keep leaning into factions in general. It seems like they might with the idols and obol squad being involved, but stuff like "Stars of Lyra" who seem to just be Astra and Eve for the rest of time and "Mockingbird" which is an organization which we've only met two members of worried me for a bit.

I love zzz and I hate wuwa hsr genshin

damn, I'm gonna have way too many rolls before another furry character shows up

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Pregleda...sexo

remove HDD

the only good excuse for them in my head is because of lore reason. if the leaks of MCs new skin (when they're still in helios academy) is real then hopefully we'd get a snippet lore of HDD, I think that would make a good transition bridge for 1.x-2.0, it's about time we get another lore bomb
I do curious what are they gonna do with fairy and the following 3 AI's

tvs were the cornerstone of the game and had some bright moments

Yeah, but the nonTV stuff they've shown through the events is pretty neat too. All the devs have to do is actually implement it inside the main story and not just for a 8 minute tiny part. The lighter beat em up, The 3/4 view Tully gameplay, Racing, Eous64, tower defense, etc...The dodging sniper fire/bringer hand during the corridor section is cool too. Just add more variety of gameplay during the story sections and I'll be happy.

To the next level

Nah there is no way they'd implement actual romance, the nuclear butthurt from the chinese players would harm their revenue.

Good morning, QRD on the video they released? I see main thread is jeet bot spam and other generals raiding, I need to get ready for the work.

All we have left to do is wait and see. Hopefully they get their shit together. Out of all mihomo slop, this is the most pleasing one to me.

We going to a Chinese dojo basically

TLDW: System & Gameplay Changes (2.0 and Beyond)

New base of operations:

Yi Xuan's dojo replaces the video store hub.

Set in Waifei Peninsula, connected to Lemnian Hollow.

Enter Lemnian Hollow directly instead of using the HDD.

New UI:

Replaces slider with a proper map of New Eridu.

Improved area transitions: Seamless travel between city area and dojo interior (reduced loading screens).

Minimap added for overworld exploration.

Special Episodes merged - no more standalone episodes; their content will now be part of the main story chapters.

Combat system evolution:

Greater emphasis on 3-agent synergy, not just a main DPS.

More out-of-field actions visible during battle.

2.x characters will have more involved kits (e.g., Trigger/Sanby-style effects).

Enemy design update encourages teamwork between Agents.

Events revamp:

Old events like Grand Marcel Adventure and Bangboo vs Ethereals will return with improvements.

New event types:

Bangboo duels

Giant Bangboo mecha battles

Slice-of-life (SoL) events with your agents

Standard combat events still included

Older character buffs:

Kit updates, not just stat changes

Possible new moves/abilities

New agents will be designed to synergize with older ones

Xbox release confirmed

Thank you Mr.putin very cool

New region is Chinatown where you live in a dojo with Yi Xuan as your teacher, and you have to slowly fix it up with your store management skills
Buffs for old characters
Possibly teasing extra relationship levels or deeper bonds with your characters
TV is dead
Non-DPS characters will be made to feel like they actually participate, i.e., via Aftershock attacks

next story arc is wuxia stuff, good or bad is up to you

Idols fucking confirmed so all the doomposters are on suicide watch

sunsetting the HDD stuff so you can just go right into missions

integrating character stories into the main story progression

old Agents getting buffed

Giant Bangboo mecha battles

Eh nuh neh motherfuckers

Bangboo digs giant robots

They should probably stop listening to what players want now when it comes to gameplay and start focusing on what they have. Listening to feedback is good and all but they also need to enforce their vision of the game. I think they compromised enough.

HOLY FUCK FINALLY

Nice!
My dick on the left.

Sexo robutto

jufufu

Players (customers) never EVER know what they actually want. It was always true and will always be true.

Trigger/Sanby-style effects

I don't understand why aren't they just implement tag-team combo attack like ben and koleda

I think the tag team animations are just a remnant of a scrapped idea at this point.

The idea is pretty good on paper but that means pulling for two or three S-ranks from the same faction just for some flashy all-out-attack animation, way too expensive.

Loli with talking gun, SEED, Idols, and I'm rolling for Vivian and the 2.0 Chinese Anby. I hope I make it.

One thing I'm hoping they add next is a new arcade game to sink my time on. If they're copying existing genres like Vampire Survivors, I want to see and FTL or Slay the Spire clone in the arcade.

How about this

On release, agent has one or two pairings with A ranks or standard banner/old limited S rank agents

On rerun, they gain another with a more relevant character to that agent

these all have minor modifiers/timed buffs to what that team composition lacks or is already good at, nothing egregrious like a Shiyu tier buff

Sound good?

I want the arcade to get a battle network ripoff.

Uooh segs cunny uooh plap plap
Thank you for coming to my TED Talk.

Will we get Chinese pulchras in 2.X?

The patch preview livestream is this Friday right?

The Temple stuff is honestly fine as the further exploration of urban Asia setting.
Japan, for example, has plenty of temples surrounded by concrete jungle, so it's authentic.

The wording got me a bit worried, though, because it seemed like we're going to move out of our video store and start managing the temple instead.
That's not an identity switch I like - I'd prefer exploring the video store idea further instead.
HDD becoming irrelevant is a terrible idea - it being a piece of superior technology was a big plot point. Even if it was important to get Proxies into Hollows personally, just scrapping HDD is not a good path to take.

They mentioned improvements to the cool Bangboo game modes we had, so it's nice to see those return.
TV seems to be very dead, and that's pretty damn bad, as the storytelling since it was removed has suffered a MASSIVE hit.
For example, the pic related cheevo suggests the original plan was to have us advance Jane through the ranks of the gang, but that whole plot got thrown out of the window because they had to rework the story into a corridorslop.

In the more recent stories, the core plotline is usually pretty good, but the overall lore and worldbuilding suffers due to a clear lack of resources.
I liked the Hugo story so far, but the Mayor asspull was completely retarded and horribly paced.
Mibibi's story was great, but it had a clearly rushed ending that didn't have much to stand on, because there was not enough supplementary plot and lore again.

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My wife on the left and my wife on the right
[spoiler]wonder what flag I'm gonna get here[/spoiler]

Corn will get a gun in 2.5

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he doesn't know

I have no idea what Lithuanians are known for, but this is a good start.

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Chris Benoit

Lmao

Any Nicole?

Best I can do bwo

Do spoilers not work on this board?I don't get it

TV seems to be very dead

I pretty much resigned myself to dead TVs one patch after the Archipelago got released.

storytelling since it was removed has suffered a MASSIVE hit

Major rework probably fucked up their workflow and production pipeline massively. It probably took them until 2.0 to finally get back on track and I will judge the story production quality on that.

Winning feels so good.

Red boards do not support spoilers. That's the fucking point.

smartest czech

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I'm happy for idolbros even if they aren't my specific cup of tea. I hope you guys splurge and fund this game for many many years

I'm going to use my adult card to m2w1 all of them. if one of them is A rank I'll just m4 one of the other two.

I agree that a part of the current story-related issues are caused by the unexpected (and frankly unnecessary) story restructure due to the TV removal.
It's perfectly possible to write a good and coherent story without the TVs.
The problem I see, is that unless the budget of the game increases massively, we aren't getting as much story as we could've gotten (and were getting) if TVs were a thing.
And so far, everything the game has presented us since the TV removal seems to confirm that concern.

French niggas, would you like to see not-Paris with its not-Eiffel Tower and not-Catacombes in ZZZ?

I guess
we already got a french character (jane doe)

I'm M0W1ing all three
If I have enough I'll roll for their Mindscapes too

I don't mind. The Frogs has always been The Burger's closest and oldest allies.

The french are the original tsundere

Remember those scenes in anime where two characters argue and then a passerby or a side character says something like "they must be close". It's like that.

No no we legitimately hate you more than algerians

You're pretty cool too bro.

I'm waiting for an Algerian to enter the thread.

thanku :3

Stalker faction when?

a shame truly but I'm still pushing this whenever survey come up

just for some flashy all-out-attack animation

it's buffed koleda daze and attack multipliers though, a shame since it can raise A rank priority if they do it right

Have a lick, bros.

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S11 sweat probably is foul considering her diet consists of solely spicy crackers and noodles

we aren't getting as much story as we could've gotten (and were getting) if TVs were a thing.

TV mode was providing "more story" literally fucking never.
The story consists of: dialogs, couple of cinematics, small talk between agents and proxy during mission, some lore titbit on an item we pick up, 1 or 2 comic panels a patch. That's it.
The only difference before and after TV mode death is that now we see small talk while walking around the level instead of getting it as we move on black screen grid.

Sorry, I've moved onto your teammate

post sauce first unless it's sloppa

How retarded is Attack disc 6 for Pulchra?

I LOVE CUNNY SO MUCH, IT'S UNREAL

welp time to crank one out

Before you go please answer my question. I have her M6 but Impact disc or Attack disc both feel bad. My clears are worse with her on it. She's using steam oven and 4pc shadow harmony 2 disc miyabi set. I wanted her to be a good subDPS at least.

Man who does not have cunnylust, is not a whole man.

why are burgers so degenerated?

I want to play this game too...

We learned from the best. You and your cultured movies influenced us. The French needs to gain more soft power along with the Japanese.

wack...

Her? Not sure who you're talking about. Pulchra?

Oh, my bad I thought you (you)'d my Soukaku post asking about Pulchra. I guess the blood drained from my head and made me retarded.
I thought putting 4pc Miyabi AM disc 6 on Soukaku was retarded too but so far I've gotten all DA stars with it. Maybe I should say fuck it and go with retarded builds cause my Astra with slice of time is okay too.

steam oven

I wanted her to be a good subDPS at least

>steam oven

You aren't even using her own engine that gives her damage. Pulchra "subdps" is M6 Pulchra with her boxcutter and 4pc Shadow Harmony.

I don't have boxcutter. I don't roll on weapon banners so I'm working with what I have.

TV mode was providing "more story" literally fucking never.

Factually and provably incorrect.
Go and replay Chapter 3 in TV vs non-TV.
Entire sub-plots and lore pieces were cut off, because the 3D-action format does not allow integrating them as easily as TV allowed to.

THE XBOX STREAM IS TOO FAR AWAY GODDAMNIT

huh?

Some anon got banned and his posts were fine from what I saw.

who is Yoimiya of zzz?

Entire sub-plots and lore pieces were cut off

Such as?

Maybe Nicole. She likes orphans.

She's a JEWWWWW

Watch how she recoils.

the jew is afraid of the truthnuke

SHE'S GOING KAIO-KEN TIMES TEN

The only piece of lore related to the death of the twins that was left in is the doll dialogues. Everything else doesn't exist anymore.
The ghosts, the darkness, the lights, the camera hijack - all of that is completely removed.

Also, why are you asking me instead of replaying it yourself?
Failing that, why are you making claims regarding the subject you literally have absolutely zero knowledge of?

We can expand on it further.
Do you also happen to think that the Lost Void offers the same level of story-telling as the original Hollow Zero?
And before that, the Blitz also had comparable story-telling?
If you need a reminder, seeing as you don't really play the game, HZ had:

series of quests dedicated to it

dedicated agent Trust events

agent Trust Mindscape dialogue

lore pieces scattered around

hidden commissions you get after you collect enough of those lore pieces

Lost Void has:

series of quests dedicated to it

And Blitz had:

fuck all

It takes an absolute lack of critical thinking to come up with the insane claim of

a cheap to develop primarily text-focused game mode will under the same budget constraints offer the same level of storytelling and worldbuilding as the mode that was literally made from the ground up to be used for combat and nothing else

which is what you're effectively saying.
Do you think that books "literally never" offer "more story" than the movies as well?

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To be fair, Lost Void has a toned down version of the agent Trust Mindscape dialogue as well.

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do you love zhu, anon?

I'm just going through the official stickers.
Zhu is one of my teams that functions, and I like her as a part of the story.

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and I like her ass

me too wtf

Zhu may be a bitch but her ass is too fat for my safety

Stoked to see the characters reveal this Sunday.

Bibi sex

The ghosts, the darkness, the lights, the camera hijack - all of that is completely removed.

Lmao it's not "sub-plots" or "lore pieces", it's just a basic entourage of ghost themed stage. What lore did you pick up from that? Nothing. You literally claim that something like rain itself in noir film is a sub-plot, what a joke. Only dialogs, boss reveal and photo of twins mattered.

If you need a reminder

Looks like you need one:
- we still get quests just outside of empty black screen this time
- who the hell had trust event in hollow apart from Billy?
- you still get agent trust dialogs in rest areas
- "lore pieces scattered around" were almost always in a form of description on items that we also still receive

It takes an absolute lack of critical thinking to come up with the insane claim of

>proceeds with headcanon

Pft, ok.

Do you think that books "literally never" offer "more story" than the movies as well?

No. Do you believe something retarded like it's a good idea to make the audience of your movie read a chapter straight from the book in subtitles? I mean, I get that I'm talking to a TV-slop cultist but still.

I like the Anon Babble thread better than the Anon Babble one.

it's not "sub-plots" or "lore pieces"

It literally is, and you are talking out of your ass.

we still get quests just outside of empty black screen this time

We haven't had a single hidden quest since 1.0
Also, this is a non-sequitur. Yes, we are getting quests. No, we are not getting quests because we have uncovered something in Lost Void.
We did get quests for uncovering something in Hollow Zero.
You are being disingenuous.

who the hell had trust event in hollow apart from Billy?

I can immediately recall Anby and Soldier 11. There are probably more, but I don't really remember.

you still get agent trust dialogs in rest areas

Yes, as I have corrected myself.
Except now you get a couple of dialogue lines, and in Hollow Zero you were given a short narrative on top of that, for example how you'd discover Jane's hideout and have a minor confrontation with her.

"lore pieces scattered around" were almost always in a form of description on items that we also still receive

1) Factually fucking wrong - there is a massive amount of lore that was presented in the form of tape recordings
2) We are NOT getting anything like that in Lost Void.

headcanon

Pft, ok.

That's not headcanon.
That's me returning you your own words and you literally not understanding what the hell you are even talking about.

like it's a good idea to make the audience of your movie read a chapter straight from the book in subtitles?

Ironically, this is what we are getting NOW.
You have to read story in the subtitles NOW because the narrative is being given through the on-field dialogue during combat and travel, and if you want to hear all of it, you have to sit there doing fuck all, so you don't accidentally skip over shit.

Meanwhile, countless adventure stories got away with presenting the player with a lot of lore while given the option of speed-reading, returning to it later, or skipping it completely.
All of that was present in the TV, and all of it was just fine.

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It sucks that there's no music video for Trigger or SSAnby.

why are you still awake... also do i study for midterms or catch up on all my gachas... wait i got one on thursday aieeeeeeee

Go study for now, holy week is coming and you'll have as much as free time as you can get once that drops

i have 0 study habits and only got my HS diploma cause rona let anyone with a failing grade pass, the school culture here in ph is pretty autistic with seeing women cry at whats basically a C grade, with my upbringing of Cs get degrees kek, also the shitposting in vg seems to have slowed down