/smg/ - STOCK MARKET GENERAL

China Edition
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Educational sites:

investopedia.com/
khanacademy.org/economics-finance-domain

Charts/Screeners/Data:

tradingview.com
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investing.com/indices/indices-futures
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Live Streams:

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livestreamy.net/bloomberg/

Options:

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optionistics.com/quotes/option-prices

Calendars:

marketwatch.com/economy-politics/calendar
earningswhispers.com/calendar
cmegroup.com/trading/interest-rates/countdown-to-fomc.html

Boomer Investing:

bogleheads.org/wiki/Getting_started
sec.gov/search-filings

Misc smg:

portfoliovisualizer.com
finance.yahoo.com/trending-tickers
dividendchannel.com/drip-returns-calculator
brokerchooser.com/

What was that insane movement on futes?

How is it even calculated? Honestly it seems like bullshit that hasn't been calibrated properly. We still have a ton of greedy slurpers at """""extreme fear""""".

it did it again btw
nothing to see here
dont ask questions

My best guess, is it takes public sentiment combined with (((experts))) who are wrong literally all the time like cramer and comes up with that. Buy when there is blood in the streets.

went from -1.5% to +0.50%

im scared

its over. april 2025 will go down as the worst month in market history. if you are not panicking you should be. capitulation will occur this week or the next. potential for extreme fear sell off continuing until the 28th is high

wtf? China bent the knee or PPT
Calling fake and gay

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im thrilled

I think investment firms are going to realize this is a giant overreaction and deals will be made with most countries by the end of the month.

Everyone thinks this won't matter I'm thinking if they don't talk about it isn't real

The headline might look optimistic but the rest of the white paper seems to be a bit more feisty. I think markets are reading too much into the remark, as it has been the case with other headlines before this. The rest of the white paper details that:

The US will not solve its own problems by raising tariffs

China urges dialogue with US to resolve trade dispute

It is normal for China and US to have differences and frictions in economy, trade

China firmly opposes US tariffs and will not accept this kind of bullying

If US wants to resolve the problem via dialogue, it should show equality, respect

China will continue to take measures to safeguard its rights, interests

its the "after hours pumps indexes into open" episode again

Excuse me?

I bought some more

Did you see one truly aggressive reply from China in those headlines? No you didn't. The are tucking their tail between their legs and sheepishly asking us to have a conversation with them about the tariffs. Trump doesn't do business this way, and it's one of the reasons I respect the hell out of him. He might be retarded at times but he has massive testicles for putting the entire fucking world on notice in the first year of his presidency. He would fit in quite nicely on /smg/. This is his last shot not only for his presidency but essentially his life to do what he wants to do on the big stage. If this doesn't work out, he will likely go down as one of the worst presidents in history, but if this works, in 2028 he will run as vice president to chubby cheeks, and then when elected he'll tell vance to step down so he gets a third term, and nobody outside of libcuck trannies will oppose this. We are currently living through one of the most legendary moments in our generations history. 9/11 was fake and gay, covid was fake and gay, this is not. Bask in the moment and enjoy it good or bad.

thoughts on SPY close on thursday?

Literally why would we pump??

its quite meaningless really. This is similar to yesterday. after hours pumps stocks then the open rugs it.

The schizo in me likes to imagine this is a fund trying to signal.

the likelihood of shorts being squeezed increases every day but that doesnt mean we cant go lower. options need to be punished along the way

Does anyone have any fucking news? I saw BOJ rate cut but even that wouldnt explain

Check the prices on puts. It's insane and a blatant bottom signal.

Markets are lying to themselves this os a nightmare and nothing burger or someone is coming to save them

YT down so bad Im now getting ads on anti woke, anti tranny, anti semitic Francis Hunt videos

repumping 150 points on a paper saying:

take your tariffs back

futes

I don't understand.

Oh is there actual news? Do you have a link?

The generational bottom is in

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futes are green

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There are another 193 countries willing to do business with us.

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Equities are back on the menu boys

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You are a big trade barrier.

UUUU

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why do you post this kid. seeing this commerical made me really uncomfortable. is this kid even alive anymore?

I've always had a weakness for fat girls with slim faces, FUCK

Are you implying that you aren't willing to give $19 a month for this adowable blanket?!

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Absolute lunacy. I think PPT is buying bonds and futures.

bear blanket

you are going to get some kind of justice for these posts.
that kids 16 wtf i just looked it up. I wonder if he has a libido. that would be torture

The market is off its highs but we're still witnessing extreme greed.

Its PPT

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goodnight /smg/. remember to pray.

no the one in the wheel chair. I was reading and apparently Alec (the non-white one in your pic rel) had an actor for all of his commercials (?)

That's just how china always talks. Their trying to enhance their image for countries like Singapore that feel they were burned for no reason.

DIZZIZZNTJUSSAHOZPTAL

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Right now these pumps just look like fail attempts by the market trying to front run tariff removal. Judging from the behavior they clearly don't know and are unironically trying to time it. Now imagine a week passes and not a single sign of tariffs being removed? Lol they're literally trying to get in low and hoping Trump stops the tariffs. Easy money but if Trump doesn't put a stop to the tariffs then I can see a bunch of huge firms realizing they need to pull out asap before the other firms pull out on their bluffs. Imagine ultra black monday all caused by big firms not wanting to be left holding the bags. Maybe it's cope but imagine seeing big firms acting just like retail traders and running for the exit. Bankruptcy for those who don't pull out fast enough.

Is the stock market going out of business?

Apple is still trading at 27x,

sleep late

missed 27% gains

i hate myself...

None of this has anything to do with tariffs. If it did imported commodities would be rallying.

China or Europe just need to make one surprising move to make the situation look more serious.
Like, China could officially announce it will start reducing its holdings of US bonds because it wants to avoid losing money when their value decreases due to the falling dollar. Just a business decision.
Europe could ban US cloud and software from government computers, until the US officially declares it will not try to get Greenland. Just a security measure to prevent US getting intelligence about joint efforts to defend Denmark from US aggression.

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Me when I extrapolate shit I made up

Well /smg/, turns out the crash never came. It's time to celebrate. Trump won, trannies lost, and that's just the way life goes. Winners win, losers lose. Not my fault you're gay.

Song for representing the state of futures right now

youtu.be/HgzGwKwLmgM?si=9fydGzEz0tNAljtB

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Elon posting at 4am

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niggievideo green premarket.

i didnt panic sell two huge downturns im a buy and hold pro now.

i am a little worried about institutions slurping now and their average price is 40 points lower than mine...

bald

DO NOT SELL! Honestly if you bitch out now there is nothing to gain from it. Deep inside you know damn well what to do. Remember your training.

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stock market crash after a crazy bull run

nazis about to take over Germany

fugg it's like 95 years ago.

Hey hey hey woah now guys it’s a little too early for the rug pull, huh? Let’s try and save that for market open

So tired of winning.

This is actually insane. There are no rational actors left in the market.

these finance "experts" clearly need to learn from trump.. they were all so wrong and trump was right about the market boom

what are the most entertaining streams/channels to watch during these time? i want to bask in the chaos of it all

what is your play just pure shorting?

Never were

Nah, I was just being ironic, I'm not winning at all.

shiiiiiiiiiet, it's over for me.

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We live in a simulation fren

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AGNC is the only US company I consider buying. But I'm not into indivual stocks. Anybody wanna give me his personal (not financial advice) opinion on that? I don't mean putting a large chunk in there right now, but over weeks/months small sums.

This whole thing is trump chimping out over china, this is the beginning of a open cold war, you're worried about your 401k, nigga you're gonna be dead soon

popping my head in from the Anon Babble thread
i bought calls on SVXY at close yesterday
how fucked am i chat?

I can't be killed by conventional weapons

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Did you miss when the market shot up by 2 trillion dollars when some asshole made a tweet that said the tariffs were off?

The market is just an RNG at this point, so your guess is as good as mine. That said, VIX has been trending upward, meaning bad shit ahead.

Only the magic 8 ball knows

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I'm no expert, but I'd guess that something with my internet is not right, right?

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Came from Anon Babble I knew something seemed off about those threads since I came back, thanks anon.

that's basically where i'm at
i shorted vix on the hope that tariffs would be postponed or some good news would come
it's a small portion of portfolio and i'll be able to eat the loss fine if it goes sour - i made out well yesterday with SQQQ calls hedged with buys of nvidia and a few other big names on the "cheap", so at this point, i'm just playing with house money
i'm all cash after pulling basically the entirety of my shitcoin portfolio last (minus BTC)

Wrong thread but check your router logs. I had this and some Russian nigger had bruteforced the password to my network because I forgot to make it not publicly visible. My router was calling home to some province in Vodkaland every night at like 2 am. Spooky shit.

personally i think the market is going to get heem'd all week

My first big buy in my tax deferred account was AGNC due to the large dividend. I held it for about two years and unironically sold it at the top. It really boosted my account. I'm an old boomer now and just VNQ for REIT exposure.

beginning of a open cold war

This isn't the beginning, we're already knee deep in it

VIX isn't saying shit that SPX isn't already tell you because short term they're pretty strict inverses.

Foreigners don't understand. I'm pushing all of my chips into the center with big dick donny. If this doesn't work, i'm more than willing to go down with the ship. I won't rest until every single yuropoors and leaf bends the knee to the US (this excludes based concrete tube Macedonians). I hate yuropoors, I hate leafs. There is no potion or remedy that can cure this. All I can hope is that god's chosen president makes them suffer. I want to sit next to donny and deny the pleas and cries of other countries while we thrive forever. I've had a vision tonight directly from god. This vision showed me a world where there are no turkroach posters. It was a utopia, and I believe following trump's plan we will get there one day. Trust in Christ.

youtu.be/V6glX2WXLi4?si=FKMemSf_LKQKJJIp

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I've had a vision tonight directly from god

typical prottie getting divine revelations on a daily basis and witnessing miracles every Sunday. Protip: it wasn't from god.

My grandfather was Polish. He would be disgusted if he found out Polish posters acted this way. You are clearly a communist because communists hate and deny the existence of god. When Baggot wakes up he will clear all of this up. As much as I hate to admit this, his jewish wizardry is considerably stronger than mine. So long story short, watch you mouth.

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If only you were half as funny as Baggie

More schizo posting please, your last few haven't been getting any (yous) on Anon Babble

For false messiahs and false prophets will appear, and will produce great signs and wonders in order to deceive, if possible, even the elect.

Do you really want me to crash the markets that badly?

Get me out of this gay and retarded shithole

Good morning from Best Maaa-cedonia, Maka-donia, if you’re Slavic master race. Forget about yesterday, think of today. There’s still lots of bottles and cans just waiting to be picked up. If you don’t to it I have no sympathy for you. Mitch and Murray should fire most of you anyway.

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He drank all the Heinekens cause of his portfolio melting away. Do you also have that Amstel vs Heineken feud in your country?

All fucking protestants must fucking hang

muh ancestor

I'm not schizo, i'm 12 beers deep and more clairvoyant than ever. This general disgusts me. The lack of Americans here is embarrassing. I'll carry my country on my back though. The economic war has started and we will win.
May your can and bottle search be swift and plentiful.

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Or let's call it rivalry, as in they are the two most common beers (to my knowledge).

Although I think you are the other makadonian (slavic)

70 countries bent the knee already

We need to absolutely punish leafs for their disobedience.

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If there is an argument about it I’ve never heard it. I personally stick to the local stuff since I can return the bottles.

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on my back

Bro we've seen your pictures, you have no back.

I could literally heem every anon in this general, probably 3 at a time. Nobody has ever been brave enough to try.

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wagecuckin callin me. been sick last week and got food poisoning yesterday

hope we got some nice bull day agian

Most people could hold you down and rape you

Thank you for the blessing. Clearly a man of distinction. Careful about those punishments. The leafs just might enjoy them.

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Poland will exist long after America is gone. It is literally the only non-cucked EU country, managed to pull itself out of USSR oblivion in 20 something years, and has a population divided into either dumb but moral or actually intelligent people.
In the ruins of Europe Poland will be the first to rise.

social structures are communist

I understand that winning a few roulette rolls in a row makes you feel invincible, but perhaps take the lucky time you've been aforded to read some history instead of reading into the markets.

Amstel has been owned by heineken for like 50 years. In most countries they are made in the same vat from the same barley broth, with slight variations of the same hops. They both taste like fizzy piss. Local Albanian breweries are better, I wouldn't be drinking any Heineken B.V. made stuff either.

All I ask is a luxury concrete tube when I visit. Macedonia is one of the best allies to the US. Trump literally told me this.

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I have already reserved one for you and even started furnishing it. I’m sure you will find the proximity to a few casinos and sports betting parlors very accommodating.

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this is not a war, this is an extended suicide. there can be no winner here. there is no scenario in which anyone will be better off in the end.
better ask yourself why Trump might want to end globalization like that. and no, it's not to protect you from mr chinaman's cheap plastic slop.

Amstel has been owned by heineken for like 50 years

Didn't know that. So they were profiting in any case.
It was mostly Heineken or Amstel, especially in taverns. Remember the tables full with both bottles. And some Retsina Malamatina, kek.

German SPD To Lead Finance, Defense Ministry In New Government - Bild

Vote CDU for no debt

Get SPD finance minister

It's over.

Oh you were talking about Greece? In Greece, the Heineken subsidiary "Athenian Brewery" at some point in 2012 owned 80% of the Greek beer market. There have been extensive (10y+) anti-trust law suits in Greece against them. Not to mention new lawsuits happening because the pay big consumers cash to stock their products and threaten to not sell if they stock competitor products.

Why is it you think that Mr.Trump might want to end globalization like that?

dang, lookin comfy king. How much does a luxury tube go for in macedonia?
-_-

Why is it you think that Mr.Trump might want to end globalization like that?

I think he knows hot confrontation between US and China is inevitable, and he wants to make sure he won't be reliant on external economies when it comes to it. I could be wrong, but I can't explain his moves in any other way. I politely assume he isn't completely retarded, and doesn't ruin the economy for the lulz.

I lost over 8.5k in this past month alone

The US can't win a conventional war against china in the south china sea. If we do these big expensive reforms we can hold alaska and greenland though.

Yeah. In germany Heineken and Amstel are no real threat or competitor. Heineken more than Amstel, but still, there's way too much german beer.

But in Greece they are/were big and you virtually only saw them at least in villages and small towns.

I'm only down 30k. I thought this year I was going to break 250k

These were supposed to part of some waste water treatment plant that was funded by the EU and USAID ironically. To project never started after these were purchased. So they are free for us, and payed for by US and Western Europe. I am willing to share them though.

wow, our homeless people have to sleep under busy freeways if they want concrete accommodations. eastern europe really does have it all.

I lost $1800, starting from a $1400 portfolio a month ago lmao

CRASH THIS MARKET DONNIE

Maybe the winner is the anon who collects the biggest harem of ebony queens when the whole system collapses. Gains are not always measured in money.

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I'm extremely annoyed when a bunch of birds (mostly doves) are talking to each other too loud in the morning outside my bedroom window

That's the turbo best way

yes, maybe the true gains will be friends we'll make on /smg/ along the way.

pigeons are particularly annoying this way. they also shit all over the place. fuck pigeons.

I have heard various complicated analyses but I believe the main reason is in its essence a different view of the world. Sure it would be better to be self reliant, but the whole "devalue the dollar" is the view of a person who, much like most other wealthy individuals, view money as a means of transaction (not wealth) and understands that money and nations are not finance. They are real practical things, and only with real practical things can one survive. He is right. Being self reliant is just one of the many side effects.

Yes and then they think maybe if they make eye contact from time to time I will feed them. The audacity... they are cute but they are also a bit like rats with wings.

Antacids

Can we finna dump now?

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huh must have been some great news to pump it 0.5% in seconds

RIP

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Uhh stonk market bros..

Economic inceldom

i hate these scam instruments that pause trading on volatility

oh okay bye

crab day, markets dont want to go lower but will if blumf announces more tariffs

why did it suddenly fall almost 2%

i think alot of brokerages open premarket at 7am

oh didn't know. somehow caught the green top perfectly

U.S. STOCK INDEX FUTURES TURN SHARPLY LOWER AFTER CHINA ANNOUNCES ADDITIONAL TARIFF MEASURES ON U.S. GOODS

MORE TARIFFS ON US BY CHINA

Think he'll retaliate on the retaliation?

BREAKING

CHINA RAISES TARIFFS ON US GOOD TO 84%

STOCKS COLLAPSING

VIX SPIKING

YIELDS BLOWING OUT

ahh thank you china for these beautiful gains

Link

TRADE WAR
TRADE WAR
TRADE WAR
CHINA RETALIATED

markets are rational

see

DO SOMETHING JEROME POWELL

Rocker is always wrong.

wait a little and watch the bulls slurp up just as violently

if anything, he will rise rates after inflation spikes.

Okay, grandpa. In 2025, you just retaliate to the retaliation. 204% tariffs.

NO CRYING IN THE CASINO

Why did I have to be bearish for years during a bull run and turn bullish during an actually crash... I dumped my SPX shorts at 5742 lmao...

Rates are going way up when inflation hits

Right up until they remove the fed

STAWP SELLING

live in China

try to prepare breakfast but one of my retarded concubines drank the last of the leaded milk

get in car

car won't start because intake is clogged with a toddler's torso

oh yeah, forgot about that

pluck it out

car is still immobilized due to several human heads jamming up the wheel as well

no time to fix it, I'm late for work

use concubine #3's bicycle

bike is broken because it's chinese just like you

f@#*!

have to walk, I guess

put on standard outdoor chinese facemask

visibility is 20 feet due to smog

best it's been all year, what a beautiful day

see neighbor lady sweeping her dead child into trash bin

again?!

she shrugs and says "china will grow larger" and goes back into house

a sewer explodes, I narrowly dodge a flying manhole cover

get to train station

doors open, suffocated and smothered dead bodies pour out

oh this is the dead body train, I'll take the next one

living people train arrives

doors open, suffocated and smothered dead bodies pour out

trample over them because I'm late, dammit

driver announces "scheduled derailment in 10 seconds, please hold on"

train derails, me and some other guy in the back row survive

he waves to me with the one arm he has left and smiles

says "We will live in prosperity!"

finally get to the wilderness park where I work

take escalator up to office to clock in

plate at the top of escalator gives way, gears and torque would've eaten my left leg if I still had one

feed it my left hand instead as an offering

for China

get in car to drive a visitor and her family around tiger enclosure

remind them that one of them has to die here as per the rules of the park

daughter says it's her turn and jumps out, mom says "bull (bleep)" and jumps out after her

Tiger kills the mother but breaks its leg while trying to kill daughter due to calcium deficiency

I have to apologize to the daughter: "sorry, Tiger is broken today, come back tomorrow"

China wirr grow rarger

400% tariffs on ‘Jina

Me at 5270 on friday open. It was so dumb of me.

Wasted minutes thinking about it today. Can't turn time back, so stopped thinking about it. Only the future matters

NOO WHO WOULD HAVE THOUGHT THE COMMUNISTS DON'T WANT US PRODUCTS

china will fold.
they cant buy their own shit and no one else can fill the void of usa not buying since everyone else is already buying chink stuff

It was real in my mind.

Exports to the US is like 3% of their economy.

I wonder if this will make other countries more cocky in their negotiations. I just hope EU doesn't retaliate. they'd just use that tax money to bring in more African doctors and engineers.

whew i got really lucky there. if i had got anything else they would all have gone in knockout

china will fold.

uhm they just announced an additional 84% tariff are you retarded? Are you saying they are bluffing?

people still see china as a nation of sweatshop workers dependent on selling cheap plastic tat to sophisticated westerners. 20 years behind the times, China has raced ahead and created a wealthy middle class.

odds he does it for free?

least deranged Amerimutt

I hate how I'm starting to sound like a broken record about Amerimutts but Jesus, get a grip mutts, I literally can't refrain from pointing out how messed up you lot are in this very thread.

we're still higher than when that "China isn't retaliating" FUD dropped

3%

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now i don't know what to do. short feels like the obvious but i just know there will be aggressive slurpers as it already pumped almost 1%

It's 5am and I have work in a few hours after having been up all night. We're not exactly at our best right now.

True, there's probably some alcohol involved too

see picrel above.
china needs buyers or they die

Things aren't normally like this, We're a bit high strung.

im enjoying this mumu

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Will die

an economy so big and saturated in resources and production that it also sustains half the rest of the world

They might have a recession. But they are chinese. Their whole past century was recession with the exception of the last 15 years maybe.

dreamed of a 20% down candle. had to check the charts. i guess it's not nearly as bad as that but oof... gonna try to get back to sleep though

And its a company with basically no revenue growth at this point.

Is sub 60$ brent recessionary bros?

No but 30 is

not die but their middle class needs money.

china is no longer composed solely of underclass proletariat who can eat grass and drink rain water.
they need money or things will not be bussin

Good

HOT STUFF COMING THROUGH

Awesome, what an incredibly fucking stupid manufactured crash. Wow. Ten weeks of little babby tantrum because a bunch of rich faggots can't stand Trump cutting off their gravy train. No one with a third of a brain thinks China has any leverage in any of this. I will never forgive leftist retards for destroying my net worth over this shit.

turns out the entire market was held together by cheap Chinese dildos and furry outfits.

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US Trsy Sec Bessent: China's 84% Retaliatory Tariffs Unfortunate - Fox Business Network Interview

- China's Escalation Is A Loser For Them -Fox Business Network Interview

because a bunch of rich faggots can't stand Trump cutting off their gravy train

how does a post go so wrong so abruptly...

No one with a third of a brain thinks China has any leverage in any of this

They make a lot of your stuff, are you retarded?

so much for its all priced in

Last post before I get a miniscule amount of sleep:

Are Euro politicians smart enough to understand that US tech isn't politically aligned with Trump, and that he has an incentive to hurt them? I'm hoping not, because I really want to see tech trannies get BTFO by EU retaliatory tariffs.

OIL PRICE BELOW $60

Wow a euro with no perspective, who woulda thought. Yeah, they make a lot of stuff but then impose barriers on US imports. AKA the exact thing that's happening in reverse now since they decided to play chicken against the US.

EU is targeting red state exports

Hi NNN

eu wont do shit but is down double that of sp anyway

please, ameribro, we're taxed enough as it is...

If oil price is going down why is CAD going up?

holy fuck the spreads of ETFs are absolutely blowing out

vix is going crazy

oil is dumping

ITS THE END OF THE WORLD AS WE KNOW IT

On what cope is the market constantly pumping?

Its been dumping for half a day retard
And a couple months before that

I guess this is the little push that was needed to bring those valuations to sane levels.

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Please hit 100 Vix
I beg you.

we drill 4700 today

what's the slurp zone? still 4000?

S&P almost oversold on the fucking FIVE YEAR CHART like the world is fucking ending but it's just because of pure speculation about tariffs. What a FUCKING JOKE. When this inevitably whipsaws into a neon green dildo for 9 months are all the alarmist faggots going to act like they don't know why???

4000 is my base case for run of the mill recession and earnings contraction.

trump will be impeached soon and ath bull markets will come

these PM swings

so what happened 7 minutes ago ?

pure speculation about tariffs

The tariffs are in place sir

seems overblown...

The selling is amplified because of how high the valuation for the S&P was going into this.
To recap before the tariff bonanza S&P earnings were projected to grow by 50% in 3 years and the S&P was trading at 35 CAPE

When you get hit by an economic shock at those valuations it gets ugly fast. First earnings projections will heavily contract and the CAPE ratio has to go down. It's a double whammy. That's the danger of high starting valuation.

oh the china tariff starts tomorrow

For 48 hours? You think the market shitting itself back to 2023 levels is justified based on that, even though there is literally no way to judge the actual long term impact of the tariffs?

seems

it IS overblown and ridiculously so

What's being priced in is the general lack of trust in the US now. Tariffs reversing won't bring that back, it's a general feeling that the wheels are coming off the global economy and the US is no longer a reliable economic partner.

It's not just tariffs.

I bought more SOXL
Let's see how much money I lose today

no way to judge the long term impact of the tariffs

America will become healthier, stronger, richer and great again.

what are the chances he tries the same about the tariffs?

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Assume earnings plateau at 220 because of recession
Assume multiple goes to 18

These are both perfectly reasonable assumptions in current conditions, nothing even overtly bearish. That gets you to 4000

Now if we get a real hardcore depression and multiple goes to 15 and earnings decline to 180 then you're looking at S&P 2700 for the real bear case.

You're so right dude. We barely trade with China at all. Buy all the stonks now, it doesn't matter what, it's all going up, up, UP!
Seriously! BUY EVERYTHING AS SOON AS THE MARKET OPENS UNLESS YOU HATE MONEY!!!

For 48 hours?

companies plan for years ahead. they need to completely remodel their supply chains. they were literally swiped of their feet.

years

a quarter is 3 months.

What about the tariffs on Canada, South america, Africa, Europe, Asia, Australia?

its over for the us. the tariff whipping is just a distraction

We'll have all the factories ready to go in two more weeks and if you guys in foreign countries want to tariff us when you buy our cool shit, go ahead, we understand you need to do it.

well you know that free healthcare and education doesn't pay itself. perfect opportunity to tax more without making it look like a tax increase

total foreign trade is only 11% of us gdp. consumer economy. stocks are at a discount. doesn't mean they won't go lower. if you diligently follow my posts you'd know what i mean by that. but it's not a rational response to tariffs at this point.

I got three tips for avoiding margin calls if anybody is interested.

alright I'm CANCELLING ALL MY ORDERS

alarmist faggotry/10

we

More alarmist faggotry

muh supply chains are collapsing!!!

MORE alarmist faggotry

AND NONE OF YOU ARE AMERICAN LOL

trumpist zealot spotted, kek

Yeah bro, 2.7 trillion dollars is a drop in the motherfucking bucket. A small price to pay to make the fags and trannies cry while we DOT every last ACRE of US soil with manufacturing plants. It's gonna be great. The JEWS are going to be WETTING THEIR BEDS WITH TEARS once all they have to rely on in life is millions of Americans working the same jobs as the Chinese, but for even LESS PAY so that CHYNA gets FUCKED. GOD BLESS AMERICA!

based

Brain rot is a terrible thing, whew. The whole "Americans are gonna have to work factory jobs boohoo!" shit is so ridiculous. Like, it's not the 1970s. We have advanced automation. Aim for the stars retard.

captcha: JYOOD

I remember growing up in the 90s the joke that everything had a "made in china" label on it was just this ubiquitous thing that everyone just knew about. I wonder if that will finally stop now.

btu is up 10% in the premarket but other coal companies are down. seems strange. maybe not gonna mess with that today but i'll watch it. don't think i'm getting back to sleep until market close. i have the symphony tomorrow during market hours so i am not gonna be able to trade/post much.

Right?? Even my Democrat parents were proudly seeking out "Made in USA" products for years. The way people are such globalist apologists now blows my mind.

Did you watch this?
He literally says all sarcastically,” ohhh did i say that? I cant believe I said that”
He never denied it, if anything he laughed about it like he let it slip out on purpose
And yes he will do this a couple weeks or years from now

Back in the 90s, China was a poor developing nation, then they implemented tariffs and overnight they became a rich and powerful country. This is America's future. Rich, Powerful, and open for FAIR trade deals.

Holy shit the American ego is really coming out with these tarrifs, it's expected from Trump but a lot of amerimuts in this thread show the same behaviour.

"We don't need you, we'll just produce everything ourselves''

''You're cheating us''

So up in their own ass they believe their economic strategy is gonna work despite it being quite simply retarded

Oh shit I'm sorry, let me reshuffle my notes here. Mm.

AMEN, BROTHER. We are going to CREATE more JOBS than anyone has ever seen! And how are we gonna do it? You fucking guessed it! We're GIVING them to ROBOTS. I know, it sounds crazy. I know what you're thinking in that tiny gay head of yours. You're thinking "but wait, aren't fully automated factories still a pipe dream and isn't human labor exponentially cheaper for the forseeable future?" WRONG, RETARD! ELON MUSK is a fucking GENIUS, okay? Him and his TECH BILLIONAIRE FRIENDS, who are TRUE AMERICAN PATRIOTS AND ALWAYS HAVE BEEN, are going to automate our great country's way to a LITERAL UTOPIA. Once we REPLACE over SIXTY PERCENT of our workforce with ROBOTIC ARMS AND SPINWHEELS the grocery store is going to be paying YOU to take their shit, that's how cheap it's gonna be!

The way so many media outlets are acting like the China tariffs went to 104% overnight is so disingenuous, man. Completely ignoring that Biden left Trump's previous tariffs in place. The left literally lives in an alternate reality.

we will rape the whole world by force if we have too, we will never be defeated

I hope iphones cost over 3k and my wage are tripled
I buy a phone once a decade, who the fuck cares

It is true, what the fuck does Belgium do for America? Produce shitty chocolate that we can make here better? Produce shitty beer when we have The King of Beers right here in America? Fuck off and find someone else to buy your shit. WE DON'T NEED YOU!

Automation means that even if manufacturing comes back to America max that labor force will only make up 15% in totality. Also they won't be paid well, the idea of single income middle class life on a manufacturing job is a complete lie.

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the amount of cope is hilarious. I can't even imagine how heavy those bags must be, kek.

"We don't need you, we'll just produce everything ourselves''

We don't, and we will

''You're cheating us''

You are

So up in their own ass they believe their economic strategy is gonna work despite it being quite simply retarded

literally didn't say anything/10

Get that TDS checked out man it's bad for your health

why are yields spiking

mmmh chocolate with vomit taste

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So, what, CPI is going to come in ice cold tomorrow and everyone will remember the good times? Fucking gay dude

Anglo had a fire/explosion in one of the coal mines Peabody is buying from them, threatening the deal. Shareholders must like the idea.

Chinks

who the fuck is buying apple right now
how the fuck is it holding so well

11%

those 11% is suddenly gone

people lose their homes

banks and insurance companies book losses

fire more people

more companies suddenly make losses

they also start to fire people

margin calls, I've managed to avoid margin calls using this one weird trick. When I sense a margin call coming, I just do my margin call tik tok dance, the sheer joy of my dance distracts the margin call jews, keeping them far away from my account.

Buddy, as a billionaire, I just want to let you know that I really appreciate people like you. Thanks for all your hard work. Without you, I'd probably already be chopped into small pieces by an angry mob of smelly poor people. Keep it up, champ. We're all counting on you.

cough up xi

Two crows were cawing outside my window couple of days ago early in the morning like they were right next to my window

I buy more from poor third world shitholes than they buy from me! Therefore they are cheating me!

What do you think you can export to Vietnam nigger? They earn 10 dollars per day.

Is this a buy or sell signal

Augurs get in here

crows are intelligent af, they knew what they were doing, leaf

still early but i think i'll be trading nugt and labd today. gold up again, opening right near where it opened yesterday and in the selloff yesterday it held up pretty well not making new lows for the week. also the pharma tariffs and the tendency for biotech to trade contrary to the low vol healthcare group makes me think it's another down only day for biotech, and think semis are pretty sold out at this point and they're gonna want to dump a growth sector today.

They can just get a new job working in the freshly reopened coal mines, or one of the millions of new factories being constructed.

Freshly baked, migrate when ready

What the fuck are you telling us now for? We could have used this information a couple of days ago when it happened. I swear you fucking leafs are more useless than the fucking mexicans.

wawawiwa

too early. no giantess. very disappointed.

China’s entire goal has been to slowly transition to a service sector economy lead by a large middle class like the West, with a large manufacturing base underpinning it. This will slow that transition. You could argue they’ll be fine, they’re used to it and all this tariff noise will be corrected via currency revaluations and it’s all overblown.

There’s a cost balance to automation, i’ve worked with automation engineers and only about half of them are semi-competent. Any manufacturing process still needs a lot of labour to to oversee the process. Pumps fail, drives degrade, rivets wear, servers crash, general degradation, wear and tear on equipment is a physical fact that needs a whole network of people to keep it going. That’s not even getting into all the environmental, H&S and government regulations etc that demand lots of jobs to comply with. A lot of the time automation slows and limits what two guys on a truck could do when shtf. Lost count of the amount of times some manager has brought in a automated piece of equipment that’s been ripped out because it cost more than a simpler system. So much so that companies hire equipment before actually purchasing it.

Had a conversation with the wife. She has seen the news about the stock market, and out of the blue suggested buying physical gold.
I told her I'm all cash and waiting for stocks and gold to dump further, she said that's a good point. I also said the best I can do now is wait, and in the meantime plant a lot of potatoes in the garden. She said "yes, by all means, let's urgently plant a lot of potatoes".
May 9 this year is the 80 th anniversary of the end of World War 2, and we are not completely sure we will make it to that date before World War 3 starts.

we could get a relief rally at any moment

I don’t think all this is aimed at getting China to the table as much as keeping them from the table and making look like it’s their fault. They will never do anything to lose face even though we have been entertained for years by their .webm’s. Trump wants China to be the last country standing with no deal when the music stops and the chairs are all taken.

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I was taking the piss. I find it funny that we're rapidly vacillating between "the tariffs will make more jobs" to "we don't need more workers because automation or something" to "the tariffs are fake and gay and the rest of the world is going to capitulate to our (very reasonable) demands for free money." You're right about automation, which brings us back to the original issue: how do we make domestic manufacturing competitive with Chinese manufacturing when they outnumber us 4:1, pay their workers less, and give roughly 0 fucks about environmental or safety regulations? I'm genuinely asking.

Breaking: China's central bank is adding silver bullion to its reserves in July, following Russia's announcement a few months ago that it would be doing the same.

captain it's wednesday