/ftl/ - Fishtank Live S4 preseason #492

poop

i can’t imagine listening to music made by ai for its artistic merit. but it would be perfect when you need to make a jingle or a generic melody for your product, like in an ad
same with images

anyways

We need to be streaming "anyways" by bretniey drurwick

I groomed a mentally ill man and then called his landlord and generally fucked with his personal life

BUT LET ME VIRTUE SIGNAL ABOUT THE HECKI POOR ARTISTS, CHUD!

Fully agree with the first part

jingle or a generic melody for your product, like in an ad

"Ad music" or stock music has this specific vibe that I can't describe. Like elevator music but a bit different? Think of that one ukulele and xylophone youtube background music
Let me guess, Jimmy doxxing me beforehand totally gets a pass? Jk idc about your response, you don't deserve attention

You don't understand how AI works lol
it's not directly using any art or recoloring anything
text llms using vector representations of "king" subtracting "man" and adding "woman" to get "queen" isn't "stealing the language".
It's just having mathematical representations of things in images, it will use all images, not just art assets. Words in the prompt like "drawing" just push that in another direction.

But then how is anyone going to learn?

Actual people who want to learn can and should, it's just a different thing. Like I said there is lots of more utilitarian stuff.

If you are making a game and need a dirt texture, is just downloading some free online online you didn't make worse than having AI generate you one that actually keeps in mind the other textures you are using in your game as well as it's tone/mood?

Oh I agree with that, I think it's important to make the distinction between an artistic work as a whole vs using AI to make pieces of it that are used in the artistic work of a human.
All AI stuff is ultimately formed by people and the less it depends on AI the better.
I think the game texture example above demonstrates that pretty well

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anyhow

that being said

the woods are just trees
the trees are just wood

Okay, all joking aside, Letty is a million times sexier hotter cuter and funnier than Claire

re: ai music
I make music and the one place I'd really like AI is to do humanize drum patterns, it's absurdly difficult to do well just programming w/o a real drummer and is something that could be mathematically represented and made to fit the music well (and obviously tuned after it's made).

youtu.be/wZRV2H4PK0Q
this is an interesting dive into AI mastering tools, he is an actual professional music guy and masters his own stuff, so compared a bunch of masters of his songs done w/ ai vs pro mastering people.

Careless use of AI was shit and worse than his masters.
Careful intentional use of AI beat his (with like 20 years of experience) masters, but lost to actual high level pros. I imagine that is how most things will go in the future.

more weight

nah

cleh

Has a soul

Nina Volyanska

devoid of soul

The better girl is clear here

Ngl it's nice to read a detailed argument that's not the generic "hurrdurr but me like AI, AI fast!" You seem pretty knowledgeable abt this stuff.
Abt the first part I disagree, there's an entire list of artist names (literally) that developers use to feed their program's algorithm. Ppl will straight up go fetch drawings online and feed it to their algorithm for it to replicate the style, which is also why I disagree with the notion of AI = the future. Comics, animation, etc. need new styles to sell, and companies that use AI display a lack of budget by doing so, which is bad for business

about the language comparison

This is like the argument I tend to see of "you take inspiration from things that exist and AI does the same"; artists innovate while AIs imitate, and mimicry defeats the purpose of art

about the dirt texture example

But whoever uploaded the free-to-use texture actually consented to it being used as an asset, whereas with AI you can't tell whose assets got used. I also don't get ppl who wanna make games without actually making the parts in it; I mean I get wanting to save time but even then, you can recycle your own creations (I for ex duplicate parts of lineart and flip them for symmetry)

take me 2 the lakes where all the poets went to die

I also don't get ppl who wanna make games without actually making the parts in it;

lol you have no idea how making things work
Sampling in music, sound effects in movies, literally everything reuses other peoples stuff.
Tons of games use standard stuff/assets.
Do people need to code their own engine from scratch to? Operating systems? Do we need to design our own computers and make those from scratch?

If I'm writing something do I need to invent my own language for it to be authentic? Aren't I just making use of previous cultural ideas and speech?

Abt the first part I disagree, there's an entire list of artist names (literally) that developers use to feed their program's algorithm.

Yeah this is generating a custom lora, you CAN use ai that way but that doesn't mean it's how you have to use AI.

All it does is find mathematical relationships in images, form mathematical representations of those.
You could put in like the entire play Hamlet with a picture of a buffalo and it can find mathematical representations in that and create something.

Or you can just write something.

I have ideas for some stuff I'm working on that would involve artists making me stuff specifically just to train AI on.

I think as a visual artist you don't understand art in general well, you are looking at it just in terms of your medium.
In a video game, movie or something it's the whole that matters and some visual thing is just a part of that.

Like movies use existing houses/architecture/artwork, but it's how it's constructed in the whole that makes it meaningful.

Would it be better if they constructed everything from scratch? Maybe but honestly probably not that seems impossible.

Visual arts are one of the few mediums that one person can just from scratch bust something out fairly quickly. If someone making a game on their own has a way of semi-automatically getting texture sets they can focus on what they actually care about (which will still take years).

why the hell did letty not go live again

letty lied, tj died

she said she would for TJ to meet Ice but he's bumming around with some korean rapper right now

Claire you should drink again today and go live and purposefully alienate yourself from every other FT contestant (not kidding)

You do realize some devs create their own assets and textures, right? And yes this also extends to indie creators, especially highly stylized games.

Do people need to code their own engine from scratch to?

That's like saying "should a painter make his own paintbrush"? It has absolutely nothing to with that.

If I'm writing something do I need to invent my own language for it to be authentic? Aren't I just making use of previous cultural ideas and speech?

Art supplies and art programs are tools. Art is the creation you make with those tools. If you use someone's creation instead of a tool in order to create, there's a problem. (Language would be to writing what colors and art supplies are to art in this case)

All it does is find mathematical relationships in images, form mathematical representations of those.

Understandable for irl pics (even then it's dangerous given what it can be used for) but if it's trying to for example replicate a cartoon anatomy that has a certain style, it's once again mimicry of an artstyle.

Ithink as a visual artist you don't understand art in general well, you are looking at it just in terms of your medium

I think that's bold of you to say that after the arguments you made, esp if you follow it up with:

In a video game, movie or something it's the whole that matters and some visual thing is just a part of that

That's the thing, these components MAKE the whole. It builds the atmosphere. When I'm trying to get immersed and I notice a free-to-use asset I saw in another piece of media, or notice an obvious AI-made piece of art in a movie or smth, I'll notice and it'll throw me off. Again, use of AI degrades a work of art's quality and can sully the whole project

What time does S2E8 drop

ok fine

Fuck all these losers

yeah i know right
anyways

you just can't see outside of your medium
youtu.be/xpsXD_kCurQ
Like I said you just don't understand how anything is made, literally everything of any serious size has a huge amount of stuff done by other people.

Like I said architecture is an artistic work and it's basically impossible for that not to be included in artwork: movies, paintings, photos, etc.

Claire seems like she’d be a better friend, particularly since she isn’t a creepy sex pest.

Yeah I guess I'd friendzone Claire and have a relationship with Letty, like TJ did

How is Nina a sex pest?? She is just a cutie full of love!!! <3 <3

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We need to be deporting Luxie back to Algeria.

We need to be deporting all Australians out of this thread

can blind people draw

if they have hands yeah

Like I said you just don't understand how anything is made
Can you actually explain what makes you think that?

Like I said architecture is an artistic work and it's basically impossible for that not to be included in artwork: movies, paintings, photos, etc.

Okay? I never said otherwise? Even in those mediums, theft is bad and mimicry kills innovation. Architecture has had many different styles over the years (photography too) and once again, this shows that evolution in art is important, not just regurgitating what's been done before. With movies and games, it's the same.

inb4 nooo you don't understand how anything is made

Every art medium has styles and every art medium has recognizeable traits, hence why you can see "inspiration" of one piece of art within another.

And to whoever might care: I wanna make a point against the Ghibli AI shit too. Like, aside from the fact that it's a disgrace and that the posers who use it insult Miyazaki.
Specifically, that AI doesn't even understand the style it's trying to copy. Notice how when ppl like Sam or Jimmy get put through that AI, they're all smooth and cutesy and lose like 50% of their facial traits? They all look the same in that filter. Picrel is a lil collage I made to show characters with odd proportions (Lin is still gorgeous, it's not a bad thing with her!) The AI could never, meaning it doesn't use any designs that characterize characters the way actual artists would. It just makes everyone look the same.

Can blind people suck my cock

Do u like the taste of balls

if they have a mouth yeah

Can blind people see

no

Architecture is something featured IN those mediums, is the point I was making. People do paintings of buildings other people made.
You scout for locations to find existing things that suit your artistic vision, no different with using pre-existing textures or AI generation. Just depends on the curator.

Also as I said before, one shot AI stuff in chat gpt 4o is not the peak of AI it's basically the lowest thing that's just most accessible. Actually using AI is pretty complicated and requires very intentional and careful usage and normies are basically not capable of it.

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Luxie, write a post about the subtleties of Algerian culture as an immigrant diaspora.

diaspora doesn't refer to one person

Can blind people rape?

What Claire (Claudia) sees in her nightmares

I know.

you called her "an immigrant diaspora"

Why does Claire hate Red Scare so much lol

Also Nina admitted she doesn't even listen to that

I referred to Algerians as an immigrant diaspora.

She might legit kill herself the very first ftl related suicide

If I, someone born in Europe, need to be deported based on my ethnic background, then literally everyone who isn't aboriginal needs to leave Australia.

People feature others' creations in games and movies

People do paintings of buildings other people made.

In their own cinematic style/3D render/drawing style It's called paying a tribute.

You scout for locations to find existing things that suit your artistic vision, no different with using pre-existing textures or AI generation

It's already different from the fact that these things were made rather than AI-generated and it's different again because it's being used for transformative purposes, which innovates

normies are basically not capable of it.

You need a high IQ to steal shit and write prompts

I mean lil kids can rape so yeah probably

If Letty is actually bringing TJ around the Ice group, she’s a fake friend.

Was TJ x Letty live today worth watching?

idk it's just not the vibe thank u next

Probably because it popularised the trend of life time sluts turning “Catholic” and acting like they’re godly cocksuckers.

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theres 2 days left of it, it doesnt really matter. TJ and Letty are leaving to Japan to do their own thing after that

Fucking empty-headed retard.

The concept of “Australia” didn’t exist before British settlement.

I'm talking abt the land you pricks invaded

Completely ignores his advice about how these people are farming her for content

"Hey TJ, do you want to meet Ice so I can farm you for content?"

On some real shit though I bet she stank real bad in this pic

? wtf is that an ai version of hailey screaming

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I bet she stinks period

no its in disney dreamlight valley but im glad u saw the vision

Lettys not retarded, TJ just doesnt understand how the kick IRL scene works. I dont know what her kcip numbers look like but she must have done very well for herself the past month

also does a hot tub stream with said group a few hours later

at least she got 1.3k viewers
fitting, hailey is a disney princess

TJ and Letty are cute together. Its gonna suck when she humiliates him publically for content.

*settled and went on to become one of the most prosperous resource rich nations of the modern world as the nation known as Australia.

On some real shit though that's cool with me

anyways

Doesn't make you aboriginal. So don't talk abt deporting a half-white girl if your ethnicity doesn't match your continent either

Claire, what are your thoughts on picrel? I plan on getting it when it's out, personally

a fish will die this year

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Also make sure to talk about how said friend doesn't like Ice Poseidon/CX on stream, if you do that they definitely WILL NOT immediately start fucking with him

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looks like coffee talk but disney-fied i'm not big on visual novels personally i like the animal crossing style gameplay if DLV but i would buy that if it was on sale for like $5

Mary mogs you

She actually might be retarded. Genuinely why would she bring him around them knowing he’ll probably get bullied by everyone & humiliated. She still is apparently pushing TJ to fight Chicken too.

Paypigs paid for 2 hours early access LMAO

Let me guess, I'll cause simps to lose it again if I say I disagree?
Understandable

i like the animal crossing style gameplay

It's good stuff, I can understand why it's so popular atm. Must be why Hello Kitty Island Adventure was made

yes i love hello kitty island adventure omg i might renew my apple arcade subscription i forgot about that game

How do you feel about Lettys messages about being wet?

I feel bad for anyone who has not gotten messages from women saying theyre wet for you. Feels so good.

People underestimate the lil nigga cx is not what it used to be like yesterday folk were talking about lawyers because letty joked about rape. If TJ can win season 2 being around some cx faggots is nothing its just he clearly would rather not.

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ChickenAndy says "Hello Lubecooch" and TJ becomes sullen and quiet for rest of stream

he can not physically fight any of these people dont be a lunatic

meh they usually just bully the loud fuckers who lack self awareness, TJ is too chill for them to care. He'll probably just sit there drink and talk about fishtank. Ice will call Letty a whore for flying him out etc. etc.

But how im acting like hitler?
When im a fucking nigger

TJ is clearly not gonna fight anyone, it's not 2018 anymore when they were all coked out fighting randos in the street.

Based on vibes

Hello Kitty: Payton

My Melody: JC

My Sweet Piano: Shadi

Kuromi: Sylvia

Pompompurin: Mauro

Cinnamoroll: Shinji

Tuxedosam: Sam

Badtz Maru: Cole

Deery-Lou: Claire

Kuroppi: Smaack

Gudetama: Jet

Chococat: Kato

Pochacco: TJ

Peccle: Vance

Usahana: Josie

Hangyodon: Fatty

what about big challenges

Connor vibes

Badtz Maru: Cole

Badtz Maru is definitely damiel

Oo i see the vision

Also: Haley Retsuko

Letty is pure soul

jc journal

No it didn’t and Claire doesn’t give a fuck about that

No soul*

Pure hole

Not at all, you’re lost

Let's wait and see but I would say that he is not going to be so cool when there's ten cameras pointed at him while one of the most infamous drama streamers, his buddies and their fanbase press him for being a stuttering autist and that's why he wants nothing to do with it

That’s not going to happen though

Chicken acts like a victim but he clearly set himself up, and he should be happy for the little bit of action he did get.

I can’t stop farting

Subhuman

doing this to Abi (to fix her alcoholism)

nina’s reaction to finding out dasha tweeted at her

how does letty know dasha then?

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eceleb grifters are basically that generation's religion
to them dasha is like, madonna was in the 80s or whatever

From being online, same way you know about her

how do you know who someone is without being a fan of their podcast

if you know sam hyde you probably know dasha

where else is dasha mentioned besides cumtown? letty doesnt strike me as someone who listens to cumtown but maybe thats why she and tj like each other.

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twitter

fr does anyone know how to download kick chats?

I've never talked to a female in outside of work or school and never had a personal conversation with one.

Same

Like fr?

yes they all dont have moms

Yes seriously

i dont think theyre meeting ice he seems to be doing stuff

It was as if Claire and I had been living in parallel passageways or tunnels, never knowing that we were moving side by side, like lost souls in the same purgatory, finally to meet at the end of those passageways. As if the passageways had ever joined; as if we had ever really connected. What a foolish fantasy that had been! No, the passageways were still parallel, only now the wall separating them was like a glass wall, and I could see Claire, an untouchable figure...No, even that wall was not always glass; at times it again became black stone, and then I did not know what was happening on the other side, what had become of her in those intervals when the cameras were off. I was even convinced that during those moments her face changed, that her lips curled with disgust and she was perhaps laughing at me with some other man, and that the whole story of the passageways was my own pathetic delusion, and that after all there was only one tunnel, dark and solitary: mine, the tunnel in which I had spent my entire miserable life. And in one of those sections of the wall I had seen this girl and had naïvely believed that she was moving in a tunnel parallel to mine, when in fact she belonged to the wide world; and perhaps out of morbid curiosity she had approached one of my strange windows, and had glimpsed the spectacle of my irredeemable loneliness. And then, while I kept moving through my passageway, she lived her normal life outside, that curious and absurd life in which there are dances and gaiety. And sometimes it happened that when I passed by one of my windows she was waiting for me; but at other times she forgot that poor caged being, and then I, my face pressed against the wall of glass, watched her in the distance laughing or dancing without a care in the world or, which was worse, I did not see her at all, and imagined her in obscene places I could not reach. At those times I feel that my destiny is infinitely more lonely than I had ever before imagined.

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obviously relatives dont count you mug

Claire and Letty!

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You or AI?

Have you tried banging on the wall of the passageway in a rhythmical manner to see if it elicits a response from the parallel passageway?

I thought he was alluding to mommy issues. Most channers have em

where do you think you are
i've basically been a shutin for like 12 years now

it's a passage from Ernesto Sabato's the tunnel I modified to be claire/fishtank related.

i do this

Same.

And was there a response or not

thoroughly awful post

i've basically been a shutin for like 12 years now

Do you like it that way? Bc if you do then imo there's nothing wrong with that. I only go out to see friends and family, I enjoy it in small doses but not in strides, not to mention sensory overload

anyways...

chicken jockey !!!

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there's nothing wrong with that.

of course there is retard, crazy thing to say

Then stop doing it?

Bettypedo carcass in alley this morning, vans shoe prints on crushed skull. This board is afraid of me. I have seen it's true face. The threads are extended gutters and the gutters are full of shit and cum and when the drains finally crust over all of the waifufags will drown. The accumulated filth of all their gooning and simping will foam up about their waists and all the zoomers and wiggers will look up and shout "Save us!"...

...and I'll look down, and whisper "noice."

I am the king of the gutter, though above it as such

stop being schizophrenic!!!

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Stop being assholes!

Stop being a woman

Since nothing's happening I'll add on to that AI conversation earlier. Artists continue their stereotype of being whiney shits with this Ghibli thing. No one's passing it off as art, it's just fucking memes. AI can be used in games, it's easy to spot the lazy work from someone using it for proper reasons and absolutely no one will care.
VAs can get fucked too. I want them gone, they are as whiney as teachers for the stupid shit they expect for their "work."

In retrospect it's weird that Jet and Ben left uncensored Betty flashing in the season 1 episode, right? It's obviously not a big deal but there's no way they allow female nudity in an official episode again no matter the context.

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I actually hate voice acting it basically ruins games, most games have shit dialog and very little text now because of voice actors.
One of my favorite game series just uses voice acting for like main characters like 10% of the time or less and everyone whines about it, but if they had to voice act everything there would just be way less dialog.
AI VA would fix that , it could be disabled by default but just enable it for people who need voiceacting.

we need to be tipping the cup feeding the fire and forgetting about useless fucking hope

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If he doesn't want to have a civil conversation he shouldn't be bitching into the void, simple as
Gotta love when idiots who offer nothing to a conversation and doesn't know shit ajout the topic insert themselves just to be edgy. Like sorry your testosterone's spiking but don't make it our problem.

there should be an option to disable VA and somehow that means AI is necessary

Convinced you just wanna be edgy atp

The context was specifically in a game that has voice actors for 10% of the dialog, the other 90% could be ai based on those voice actors just so people shut the fuck up about it, I'd disable them and just read the text though.

Important scenes would have real stuff and slop for people who need it all the time.

Ah yes I'm sure that would make for some great quality and many would be eager to pay for it

You are a mean person you should finish school before calling others stupid

if you look into it the va industry is actually an insane mafia engaging in racketeering all the time
if you don't hire from certain unions or hire the 'wrong' actors you get destroyed

I didn't read the post you replied to, I was just telling you to stop existing as a woman

It's the wrong season for listening to Agalloch. Way too sunny outside.

The problem was never my intelligence but hospitalization, don't judge my intelligrnce when you can't remember something so simple. Also I love that you bitch and moan about me but not the guy that was an asshole first
LFKZLCLZKLDKE ok thats funny

the ai argument boils down to if you believe in spirituality or only the material.
because if its the latter, you can boil down your brain to a computer and your emotions to chemical reactions, simple input output.
creativity, divine spark, inspiration, consciousness whatever you want to call it are inherently spiritual.

britbong

isn't it always gloomy and raining all year round over there for you chaps?

t. kabbalah muncher

The problem was never my intelligence

You tried to pursue Jimmy we all know your retarded its ok we all are

hes right though

You tried to pursue Jimmy

No, I was his friend and we got frisky. That's it.

i wonder how piggys boyfriend feels about her being on ftl 24/7

chilling, blazing, drinking

I wonder how your gf feels about you calling women out of your league fat. You do have a gf, right? :)

Good Scott Sullivan morning

Letty can you start streaming again that was enough of a content break tnx

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no it's just called AI it has nothing to do with actual intelligence, actual minds/intelligence are a totally different kind of thing. Sam calls it auto-correct which is technically basically accurate.

i'm gay and im still not attracted to you

It's a video game. The spirituality is already low. I'm sorry your piece of children's entertainment isn't as enlightened as you'd hoped. Maybe Sony will make another Concord for you.

So is that what it's about, you're mad I have a bf and you don't? Bc seething at me won't get you in a relationship

you're blatantly lying about having a boyfriend.

I missed TJ kino so much. I need more Korea content so I can make a Korean version of my Powtank beach webm.

What did Black Mirror mean by this?

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Its really weird to watch Lettys chat and see people who dont know who TJ is

You want text evidence or some shit?
Someone should show em the la bambo clips with no context

Same this could be the TJ Kino golden age if he ends up going to Canada after Japan too.

one time she ran a poll and the majority of viewers werent from fishtank

Claire may be an alcoholic failure black sheep ostracized by her friends and family, but she actually tries. Works a job, has SOME skills, is self reflective etc
Nina gave up on all of that before even finishing high school. Suppose she couldn't be bothered, I guess being a useless hedonistic freeloader is all she needs to be fulfilled. I just don't get how someone can be okay with such a meaningless life.

i dont care about evidence, I'm a detective, its obvious you're lying.

how is working at crumbl cookie and posting on Anon Babble all day not meaningless

all the things that differentiate your brain from being just a big strong super computer are things like consciousness, self awareness,
and creativity.
also im well aware that "AI" is not actually what its marketed and hyped up to be, im arguing in the opposite direction.
has nothing to do with what i said. but i agree that having the ability to replace voice actors with AI would be a net benefit for video games.

I think Claire would be better for TJ if she could cure her emotional damage. Unfortunately emotional damage is permanent for women and Claire will never have the confidence required.
TJ will will waifu no FT girls which will be for the best.

Let me handle you a devils advocate.
If Creativity, will etc. are not natural since they are programmed to AI how much do humans differ? We have inputs outputs based on genetics which was likely edited to us so we are biological AI

Working at crumbl cookie is something no one wants to but has to do
Nina chooses to do everything she does and not do (like getting a drivers license)

Ah I misunderstood what you were getting at.
Honestly if they made a decent Matt Mercer and Nolan north voice AI, no one would notice a single difference in video game voice acting or than seething on X.

we need to be protecting ourselves against the wiles of women

letty makes more money than claire, there is nothing that claire is doing that is better than anything letty is doing, youre mad at letty for not working some meaningless job for no reason

Good for her for branching out of the ftl circle jerk

Running the soundboard for your church is not a side hustle, Claire!

pseudo-intellectual schizo rambles in /ftl/

Can we go back to talking abt Jet's balls or smth

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anyways stop fucking being mean to me im serious

she's currently making up a fake text conversation to prove me wrong

just ran a qrd on it through an llm and his arguments are all about computers lacking consciousness and subjective experiences (qualia).
basically supporting my whole point.

damn what an asshole

I know you're not Claire but I'm gonna expound on my point earlier anyway.
She's basically a femcel (noting that femcel aren't actually celebrate as women can always find dick and Claire does it by finding losers that can give her money and drugs).
But if you listen to what she was saying during the crash out streams she hit all the incel low confidence talking points. She didn't pursue TJ because "she knew it would end up like this." She says the cope "I just want to be alone for a while, I think it would be good for me." All while proving she doesn't have the confidence to pursue anything more beyond what she has.
Cleh work on your confidence, ignore baby and just find more self-worth. It's what's holding you back.

noting that femcel aren't actually celebrate as women can always find dick

That's your problem, you think the solution to loneliness is sex

that wasnt his point at all, just completely unrelated

Whatever i'm buzzed

Reading a book and drinking wine to seem sophisticated when every sip has me tweaking from how bitter that shit is

I was just pointing out that femcel is semantically not the same as incel because femcel aren't celibate. Wasn't my overall point, I was just pointing it out so some random doesn't say she's not a femcel because she has sex.

no simpable mids

you should read a book on weight loss

wow its TJ and frank hassle

Oh oki

letty took time off streaming to hang out with tj while claire started streaming to talk shit about him to 30 year old men

im sorry to letty tj abi haley and kato

a paycheck is not the measuring stick of what is and isnt good and useful

working at crumbl cookie and feeding people slop arent any of those thing thoughbeit. but letty’s tease manipulative hypocritical side is worse then anything claire has ever done

All fishtank girls and orbiters are beautiful inside and out and deserve lots of love and care. None deserve simp bux, streaming revenue funded by gambling, or crypto insider trading.

letty’s tease manipulative hypocritical side is worse then anything claire has ever done

how?

This is a suicide note. It's so over.

Yes but it's not out of an actual spite for TJ but because she has spite for herself.
Read my femcel post, she doesn't have the confidence and needs to cope.

Anyways......

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if you are sorry than stop drinking

It's gonna be okay
His skin is so clear, I'm envious

Btw wearing the 9/11 Frank Hassle shirt (bootleg) anyone else got tvat shit?

let's drink until our hearts stop

would you go to Claire's (previously known as Claudia) funeral?

guadalajara tj's manufacturing farm theory

letty’s actions are perpetuating and normalizing in the culture, intersexual dynamics that are based in conflict and feeding egos rather then of something more mutually beneficial and fulfilling. not a good thing

Yes, I feel bad for her. Another woman destroyed by modern society. She should be married off and a housewife already, having never been seen or heard of by anyone on the internet.

cool. she’s still talking shit about these people behind their backs while accusing letty of doing the same

By the sounds of it most of her own family would not go.

correct

how do her actions enforce that at all, she gets along with men better than pretty much any other woman, most women are completely callous and distant from men outside of highly structured and disturbing gestures like "dating" and "hookup culture"

How?

can we please change the subject for the love of god i'm shaking

If you need to call someone to distract you I'm there, like dead srs

goooooood morning scottophiles

anyways whats the dream lineup for outcast house?? i think we should bring back rusty

Yes more blaxploitation please

cryo, scott, and claire

rusty deserves a full season

to be clear only these 3 and no one else

I wouldn't exactly call drunkenly crashing out live and calling them out directly during that as "behind their back" or the same as what she was accusing Letty of doing. But I take your point, it's still not a good thing to do. I don't think it matters because I don't think TJ nor Letty wants a relationship with each other besides friendship ( maybe with benefits on Letty's side because she wants to know if the giant TJ retard dong theory is true.)

Yeah so you can save all the sordid details and record it for your sick pleasure. Claire must walk the path of Cryo.

what the fuck was this about

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Can a bitch not be a homegirl

you are suggesting see any sort of engagement initiated by a woman as inherently good.

I think it had something to do with the freemasons

Scott, Simmons, and a bunch of new faces.
Rusty's merch logo.

I am?

I could be Jon (unless you want to be Vance)
I could be Jet (unless you want Sullivan)
I could be anything, I could be everything
I could be Scott (unless you want to be Sam)

I wanna fuck, MMA hooker (back up and turn around)
Stop fucking me, MMA hooker (hands on the ground)

Miss dat nigga

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This night was better than 99% of Fishtank content. It was a rollercoaster ride the entire day. Powtank was probably the best Fishtank season we will ever have.

i unironically think this too, the short time of tj claire and rusty stuck together in a room, being forced to do cringy shit, singing karaoke and vibing was peak. i think their personalities meshed perfectly

I agree, I wish Claire stayed longer. I tried to get her to explain why she left during the crash out stream but she was too drunk and getting derailed. All she got out was that she was there just to make Abi make herself look bad (mission accomplished, not that that was a hard task).

I Would rather have Powtank 2 with the same cast then S4 I have zero faith in Jet at this point.

does anyone have a clip from last night in the 'cord VC where Jimmy said Lux had a fart sucking fetish?

Someone posted recently that Powtank worked because everyone on it was at a low point in life. I think Jacob and Letty were actually in good spots though and that makes it even more interesting ("production" looking down on the fish). Even Creature had gone through a recent death pretty sure.

Maybe there's a Scott above
But all I've ever learned from tank
Was how to spar somebody who out drew ya
And it's not a Jet that you hear at night
It's not someone who's seen the light
It's a cold and it's a broken Scott Sullivan

Scott Sullivan, Scott Sullivan
Scott Sullivan
Scott Sulliiiiivan

I would murder for a Powtank 2. I basically bankrolled a lot of Powtank 1, I dropped like $2k on it. So many TTS's and I paid to boot Shadi.

I paid to boot Shadi

You are a hero

So what you are saying is Powtank 2: Redemption of Cleh edition? Who else is spiraling even lower right now? Scotty rockers?

nah remakes never hit the same
same, but i think it's probably a mix of not wanting to be exploited publicly again and some private issues. she did buy a plane ticket out of her own pocket to leave early after all
she also said something about prod exploiting her & tj as an item when explaining why she left but i didn't get it and it sounded like cope

I paid to boot Shadi

that's hilarious. but also right, her and creature were lame

So, baby, come spar me now
And maybe I'll let you on it
A little bit MMA
But, baby, that's how I want it
A little less conversation and a little more Scott Sullivan
'Cause I'm Scott Sullivan, Sullivan, Sullivan

the question isn't why you leave a fishtank thing it's why you go in the first place or why you'd stay.
only one whose managed it well is ella desu

ahem

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Serial number, fighting machine
The illest of Scotts
To an end built on the fishtank sound
You're experiencing, yeah

It goes, it goes, it goes, it goes, it goes, it goes, it goes, it goes
Sullivaaaaaan yuh

come on someone post it, it was hilarious

Shadi really didn't fit the vibes, especially with Claire gone at that point. It was the TJ and Rusty show at that point.
And makes sense but I felt it had a little more to do with TJ why Claire left since she also mentioned she didn't catch feelings for him till they hung out that night. Probably was worried Jacob would push it more and she didn't have the confidence to handle it. I won't blame her for it, but maybe things would have worked out better for her if she stayed.

my poopy bum is about to live up to its name
cant read between the lines? ill spell it out for you
i'm about to drop a shit into the toilet

Now in the street, there is hellhouse
And, and a lots of tank to be done
No place to hang out our sparring
And, and I can't blame all on the Jet

Oh no
we gonna rock down to Sullivan Avenue
And then we'll take it higher

Letty and TJ shared a beer earlier on stream ... indirect kissing ..

Bye xenophiles

shadyke

she also mentioned she didn't catch feelings for him till they hung out that night

i seriously doubt she would say something like that lol, what, during the crashout stream?

fuck off and die, you toxic bitch

i swear this bitches face is always desperately fighting to reveal its true form

shes nothing without him

Paypigs paid for 2 hours early access LMAO

Its free on the site now.

No it isn't

Yeah during that stream. She said she didn't like TJ at all and was part of the TJ didn't deserve to win S2 crowd until she got to hang out and talk with him during Powtank. She had only showed up to make Abi crash out and the TJ stuff just happened. I'm paraphrasing but she was pretty direct about it, she just confirmed the obvious that everyone who watched noticed.

Jeet thinks he's some genius content mastermind and will hedge 6 entire weeks of content on like one huge retarded idea that doesn't work out so it craters the project in its entirety.

mfw no new Brian screencaps until the Swamp Olympics finale

thanks for apologizing to Anon Babble and none of those people

Exactly, he doesn't need shit plans, he just needs to let things happen and go with the flow like Jacob did. Jacob knew he was making sloppy so he was just letting it happen. Also TJ carried as usual.

Is this obnoxious pajeet nerd in every letty stream?

Who? Nina's not even live

We know you want Scott just hit him up already

this faggot

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jet already made her send an apology to nina

Yuck

ayyooooooo scotty rockers in the house toniiiighttt

that was a cracking shite. cheers!

Never seen that nigga before

claire and abi for some reason think that the other fish are aware of whats going on in ftl.

hope he gets hit by a train so I don't have to see him again

i think he was just excited they were looking at indian history

p.s. jeet hate is a psyop and anyone who propagates it is a golem

shaaawwwwttyyyyy got a dick pic from bicflaaaaammmeeee ~
got me singin like na na na na e ver y daaaayyyyyyyyy ~

Everybody just have a good tiiiime

most people think he's her boyfriend or brother. chat tells the non fishtank fans that TJ is her brother

because they’re both hyperaware of it and think that’s normal

ok paki

Sums up perfectly why s3 failed.

"Ok guys FH2.0 will blow your mind"

Wastes entire week on preparing for FH2.0

FH2.0 fails due to poor planning

"Ok guys we have nothing else planned so season end early"

Bonus:

Blame cast for the season failing

is the gap between season 3 and 4 bigger than previous seasons?

gap between 2 and 3 felt yuge, it was postponed once or twice too

Me when I'm exactly Shadi's type but my fish queen is Sephardic Jewish/Italian

jack marston?

Naw Pakis are scum of the earth

you are of the same stock

i think this is the first time the pass is going to renew with nothing having happened. renews june 1st unless they do bloodgames quick or something

no s1 - s2 and s2- bloodgames gaps are still bigger.

its only been 4 months

After the chicken indecent I wouldn't be surprised if she lost some ftl viewers (simps) and gained some more cx viewers cause of the drama.

pakis and jeets are enemies
it pains me to defend jeets but its true
its a psyop

No it isn't lmao
Truuuuuuuuuuuuu

they're equally offensive to my eyes
the ugliest people on earth

come here and say that

pov: you're lubecooch getting ready to do your latest eating challenge later tonight

Pakis are scottish now?

yeah this was before that just for reference and she was streaming just with hyub at the time

where did you think all the viewers came from lol

jet is literally reading this rn

obv you can make the point that They're the ones importing them by the truckload and They are the real enemy but the people They're importing are still the most odious race possible

Also what's the consensus on bullying Claire? I saved the streams from earlier but if we're not bullying her any longer I wont re-upload them.

Even Season 2 had this problem with the MDE fan shit and the cult psyop. Once it was obvious a few days in that they were all fans it basically meant spending the next month+ turning the season into a torture show.

Well we all seen what he did to that chicken

we're being nice to claire

the korea museum stream was better than the entirety of season 3. thank you tj and letty for saving fish tank.. again!

the scottish are scum of the earth

claire is scum of the earth

wtf is this new?
Was it? I can't remember exactly but I do remember people in chat and in thhese threads being critical about her liking Chickenandy.

we need to be being nice to claire

claire perceives everything as bullying.

oh wait youre right it was the day after

Cryohaters sewersliding left and right.

Why else do you think we are all drunk and fucked up all the time we know

no its not

why cant i escape

because you weren’t nice to Claire

me when i see people being mean

claire is a world class eye roller

Steal your man kind of shit, fuck your dad kind of shit
Take your bitch kind of shit, slap my ass kind of shit
Suck your dick kind of shit, fuck your bitch kind of shit
OnlyFans kind of shit, don't need hands kind of shit

i would feel sorry for claire if she had a better soul and it wasn't just obvious that's jealous that she's not the one slutting it up and traveling around clout chasing.

cuddled up with claire in front of the TV at 11:11pm on a Friday night when I run my finger down her iconic claire hair middle part and say "your iconic claire hair middle part is wicked cool right now" before I kiss her greasy italian forehead

Well damn man at least spoiler that shit.

join mark's and taylor's content house famalam

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anyways...

gambling sponsorship house

Claire never had the makings of a varsity actress

v1b3

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you can just tell this is a total disaster in the making.

Goran's 6000000 billion dollar carpet thats integral for act 3

I drunk posted last night and got embarrassed

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Hi Ben!! Im drunk lel

Claire could easily be out there living her own life and having just as much fun desu.

Can I say something without everyone getting mad at me?

Jeets are endearing to me and their food is the bomb. Pakis are scum and savages and have no cuisine or any other cultural value to compensate for it.

This dude is currently Fishtanks target audience

yeah that’s about the crux of the issue for me. claire seems to have this belief in a cause and effect “philosophy” in regards to letty’s nudes being leaked while at the same time finding it wholly outrageous that letty would presumably go out of her way to mildly humiliate claire. pretty much all of the transgressions she stated work out like this and just comes off like the way jimmy operates.

I don't like food laced with shit but you do you

haiiiiiiiii :}, why r u drunk!?!

Nah. She's getting fired from Crumbl cookies anon. I could fix her if she agreed to join me on Cryo Island for a year. There I would re-invent the both of them into absolute chads, ready to take on the world.

stop being mean to me can we bring back the ignore claire challenge please

I have such a visceral distaste for gamblers. It just seems like the most retarded vice to have. Once you realize 99% of gamblers aren't high roller playboys at the poker table but instead 80 IQ retards buying scratch offs at the gas station and putting their disability check into a slot machine at 2:30 on a Tuesday afternoon its much harder to stomach.

Sipped wine while reading n had too much :P

for me it's the get ignored by claire challenge and it's one that never ends...

You like eating manure? Grim.

that sounds fun!, was it good wine??

this guy is the most asian person i've seen

What don't you like about Indian cuisine?

the poop that's in it

clarie will perceive people stopping being mean to her as them underestimating her
therefore we should start being meaner to clarie

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That's not an argument

That shouldn't really matter. She's living life on easy mode being a women in a time where men are willing to give out money with very little in return. Letty is able to survive off of donations, and kcip whenever she streams, with the low maintenance lifestyle she has. No reason why Claire couldn't do the same. She just needs to get better at being a women.

what were u reading??

It's stinky and looks unappealing. They use unhygienic cooking methods. Poos also eat literal shit

Schon erem zreck ?

StreetCar Named Tennessee, I'm tryna understand the american mind
Sinn oft hei lol

this jut means you have a functional brain and aren't an NPC, anon. Not to say I love pajeets or anything but the amount of brain dead monkeys who only started hating them because it became popular is insane.

O fuck another one.

blue jasmine is the best iteration of streetcar named desire
also she is literally me

im not a prostitute stop manifesting

true you do it for free <3

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I hope being drunk helped you understand it better

Hot take but you see the same thing if u go to a beach so who give a shit

Du has just gemengt dass de den Leit hei nett mei Opmierksamkeet giffs schenken. Oder bass du iwerhaat dei Gauß dei do irgendwei Problemer mat irgendengem Ex oder sou hat ?

Kek not rlly but it sure helped my mood. What kind of drunk are you? Like happy drunk, or angry drunk, or?

if u had a boyfriend would you be on /ftl/ on a friday night pretending to be drunk?

wow, it's amazing how "claire" only got a 24 hour ban instead of 3, thanks totally real claire.

>stinky
That's subjective I guess. The spices and the hot flavor is my favorite part about their cuisine.
>They use unhygienic cooking methods
I'm not telling you to buy Indian food off the middle of the street from a vendor in Mumbai nigga. I'm talking about Indian food in the west.
>Poos also eat literal shit
No they don't.

Don't pretend

when I get drunk I like 2 sing really loudly

princess tummy...

Am Fong kann ech néierens anescht ouni filter gécken a kommen dowéinst hei. Si kengem hei seng Ex mee Leit mengen dass ech dem Jimmy seng war well mer eng Frendschaft haaten an heinsto gesext hunn :P

operation be nice to claire was a total catastrophe
we fuck up everything

make it yourself then tardy

He's out with his boys and I'm in my house but ok
Lol good vibes

That person you're replying to is a dirty foreigner who's leeching off your country's resources. She also preys on and objectifies retarded obese men who live in the US. You need to deport her.

oh my gaaaaawwwdddd bro can you PLEASE go talk with the orbiter in discord or something, it's total NONTENT not to mention abagantamos and friends coming in here every night and getting her to write essays about her life i can't take it anymore

operation claire ignoring me is still in full effect though

i figured it was the low iq and degenerate tendencies

Let's agree to disagree, but what are jeet dishes that you like?

Jimmy is neither obese nor retarded

abagantamos

I-

abiguantanamo bay

let's make content bro

and claire is still getting cyberbullied by fat bitches and guys who look like this, get real what's going on

Aburganturmawrs

pretty much every meat dish they have is good, paneer is also good

He's out with his boys

peer pressure under blackout drunk conditions on a live stream is fucked up. Actual reality shows have strict alcohol limits and policies to avoid that.

claire is mean

why are women unable to take responsibility for anything

using nontent than proceeding 2 talk abt claire drama

Ye so it's not rlly her fault

she’s just bratty and shit testing

it's lettys fault
women who support women etc. (whatever claire says all the time)
i dont think wiggers would have been comfortable with it letty is who normalized it

blowing raspberries on claires princess tummy...

JOSIE WOSIE POSEY GOO GOO GAA GAA

At least we have the highest percentage of whites in the uk I guess

Pretending I understood

delusional

Tikka Masala with rice and boneless chicken breasts

brownleaks you're so fucking dumb bro it's unbelievable but i did crash out and i'm fine now sorry!

Jimmy is neither obese nor retarded

She's a big girl though, she can handle herself. Or is she incapable of making her own decisions?

Don't worry they will show Burts asshole. Sam is a homosexual Freemason.

boneless chicken breasts

It dont have bone to begin wirh
No but fr, even i who hate him revognize that

Claire got drunk and jealous like she's been doing since Bitchtank everyone watch this kino.!!

Cryokeen you're a fat kike who is destroying the world. You havent seen your penis in years.

the beautiful ck (cryokeen)

Ah, keng Ahnung ech hat irgendwei just an Erennerung dass de irgendwei Schwieregkeeten has mat deenen.

Wat mengst de mat gécken ? Witzer maaen ? Sou wei een Geck ?

Clueless

i mean it is tbf

I don't know if I've ever had real indian curry but the curry i get at the Japanese restaurant i like is delicious

Are you the guy that Sam has been gangstalking? I was wondering about you yesterday. I figured Sam's goon squad had got to you and you were fertilizing a field somewhere in Rhode Island.

Yeah I can't even remember when the jeet hate became popular online and everyone hopped on it. Btw I want to clarify that I 100% understand not wanting your country to be flooded with hundreds of thousands of Indians and stuff. I just don't get the pure resentment the online right has developed for indians even in india.

Se sinn hei zimmlech hefteg, Leit hu probeiert mech ze doxxen a sou :P

Witzer maaen ?

Jo genau. Hei geet schwarzen Humor besser eriwwer an et brauch een kee Konto op ze maan

anyone know the time of the jacob fight

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actually i feel more of in a lynchian vibe today

How dare you. I've hated Indians my entire life. They're the most arrogant, obnoxious, ethnonarcissistic people on earth. They're obsequious scammers who kiss ass into positions of authority they have no place being in and then fuck everything up and only hire their own. And they demand you open your borders to them no matter how ugly and stinky you find them or want to maintain your own culture. Do I really have to explain why I hate them? Do you not have eyes to see and a nose to sniff?

whats ur beef?

NEW BREAD

MIGRATE

claire is a princess!, i love her so!

It's just a meme, nobody actually hates indians

Ok now let's talk about Jews like Sam or CrypKeen

I do

After Tommorow and all the cx fags fuck off we can hopefully get uninterrupted TJ kino that's something to look forward to.

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I live in the Appalachian mountains, buddy. The only time I see Indians are when I venture into the big cities of Pittsburgh or Charlotte and even then they're rare.

I hate all races especially Jews and I hate whites because they don't hate enough

Some anons definitely do

you're talking to a dude who got a jenkem induced schizophrenia

the aforementioned golems

anyone who works in tech hates indians, ever met an exception

what’s that?

I'm better looking than TJ

hiffwe

nice

Dat stemmt schon mee ech fannen ett ass trotzdem ziemlech schaiß hei.
Du muss einfach just Frenn fannen dei sech net ann d' Box schaissen wanns de eppes licht kontroverses sees.

Leit hu probeiert mech ze doxxen a sou

:P

Lmao

I'm the only Greek in these threads whereas there are at least two anons from every other country.

i like tj with short hair better.

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It legit sounds like you’re talking about Letty

As delusional about this as you are about pajeets

letty is spiritually pajeet

only 6 days left of lent

Cucking for Israel after oct 7

Joining canadian diploma mills in droves and fucking up their housing prices

scamming pensioners

Being the most tribal people and refusing to assimilate.

Some of the hate might be forced but some hate is justified.

you suck

We're really abandoning this thread so early just like we've abandoned cleej.

The most tribal is a little bit of an exaggeration.

FUCK NIGGERS

low key, the shit talking was sorta romantic tho

you mean calling him at 3am and singing down bad by taylor swift lol just look up the lyrics