Oh Jesus, forgive us, save us from the fire of hell

Oh Jesus, forgive us, save us from the fire of hell.

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believe my religion or burn forever bro

I wonder if Hell is actually fire and brimstone or just the feeling of complete separation from God feels like intense suffering.
One time I had a terrible shroom trip and felt like I went to Hell for a little while. It was horrible.

I think it's a combination of both. The Bible does say there will be a greater damnation for some. I was in a semi-coma in the hospital several years back. Like I knew where I was but was totally out of it. I was having a dream where the guy in the next room kept dying, then coming back to life over and over again. His family was in the room crying every time he died and being happy when he came back to life. It was so bizarre and messed up. I became a Christian after that because it was so real.

Hell doesnt' even mean what you think it means. It doesn't have the connotation of evil, demons, punishment, fire, etc. The word "hell" is not Biblical. Its old English but goes back to old Germanic/Dutch HEL. It means "cover." It's where we get the words Cellar, Hall, Hull of a ship, Conceal, and Helmet. The connotation is to cover something completely up. The most accurate use of HEL is Germanic and Nordic where people were buried or covered over with dirt. Thus, they went to HEL or the hidden place covered over place of the dead. Or the HALL of The Dead. This perfectly coincides with the Bible's Sheol and Greek Hades. Sheol and Hades are AMMORAL. Neither good nor evil go there. So it means that's where the dead go in general.

Pagans invented it hell, The Catholic Church adopted it. In the OT wherever you see "hell" the original word is She'ol. She'ol is just the common grave of mankind. In the NT, wherever you see the word "hell" the original word is Hades. It is also just the grave of mankind.

So there are two kinds of hells in the Bible.

One is temporary

hades

She'ol

One is permanent

Gehenna

Lake of Fire

When Jesus is quoted as saying "hell" it is actually Gehenna. Gehenna means "Valley of Hinnom." It was a garbage dumb that was lit on permanent fire with sulfur. They threw trash in it. When they executed criminals they threw there bodies in it as well. If the bodies slipped out the worms would get it. Thus, Gehenna represents total annihilation with no escape and no memory.

Those in Hades/She'ol are waiting to be resurrected and it's for everyone who has died. Those in Gehenna/Lake of Fire are destroyed permanently. No resurrection for them. THIS is for bad people. Because of the over-generalized translation of "hell" everywhere nobody can understand the truth about death and resurrection

For God so loved the world, that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life.

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The Bible teaches that the dead are unconscious and go back to oblivion, or non-existence.

Isaiah 38:18,19 - 18 For it is not She´ol that can laud you; death itself cannot praise you. Those going down into the pit cannot look hopefully to your trueness. The living, the living, he is the one that can laud you, Just as I can this day.

Psalms 6:5 - For in death there is no mention of you; In Sheol who will laud you?

Psalms 88:10 - For those who are dead will you do a marvel? Or will those impotent in death themselves arise, Will they laud you? Selah.

Psalms 146:4 - His spirit goes out, he goes back to his ground; In that day his thoughts do perish.

Psalm 88:12 - Will a marvel by you be known in the darkness itself, Or your righteousness in the land of oblivion?

Psalms 115:17 - 17 The dead themselves do not praise Jah, Nor do any going down into silence.

(Ecclesiastes 3:18-20) I, even I, have said in my heart with regard to the sons of mankind that the [true] God is going to select them, that they may see that they themselves are beasts. 19 For there is an eventuality as respects the sons of mankind and an eventuality as respects the beast, and they have the same eventuality. As the one dies, so the other dies; and they all have but one spirit, so that there is no superiority of the man over the beast, for everything is vanity. 20 All are going to one place. They have all come to be from the dust, and they are all returning to the dust.

Ecclesiastes 9:5,6 - 5 For the living are conscious that they will die; but as for the dead, they are conscious of nothing at all, neither do they anymore have wages, because the remembrance of them has been forgotten. 6 Also, their love and their hate and their jealousy have already perished, and they have no portion anymore to time indefinite in anything that has to be done under the sun.

believing ancient stories made up to scare children

But you’re “immune to propaganda” right

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There is no hell in the Bible. Only going back to the grave. This is God's opinion on burning people alive.

Jeremiah 19:5 - And they built the high places of the Baal in order to burn their sons in the fire as whole burnt offerings to the Baal, something that I had not commanded or spoken of, and that had not come up into my heart.”’

Jeremiah 32:35 - Furthermore, they built the high places of Baal that are in the valley of the son of Hinnom, in order to make their sons and their daughters pass through [the fire] to Molech, a thing that I did not command them, neither did it come up into my heart to do this detestable thing, for the purpose of making Judah sin.’

Jeremiah 7:31 - And they have built the high places of Topheth, which is in the valley of the son of Hinnom, in order to burn their sons and their daughters in the fire, a thing that I had not commanded and that had not come up into my heart.’

God admitted three times up above he would never command anyone to do that nor would he ever think of doing that himself. If God created hell that would make God a huge hypocrite because he is doing it on a grander scale. However, God doesn't burn people alive in any way. He lets them die and cease to exist. So if you refuse to submit to God than you will go to oblivion, not hell

I fear death. I fear damnation.

Lmao
christcucks seething

Looks like Tel Aviv just after Iran nukes it.

I fear death.

First, there's nothing after death. Second >(John 5:28, 29) Do not marvel at this, because the hour is coming in which all those in the memorial tombs will hear his voice 29and come out, those who did good things to a resurrection of life, those who practiced vile things to a resurrection of judgment.

(Acts 24:15) and I have hope toward God, which hope these [men] themselves also entertain, that there is going to be a resurrection of both the righteous and the unrighteous.

(John 5:29) and come out, those who did good things to a resurrection of life, those who practiced vile things to a resurrection of judgment.

The Bible teaches that after the end of the world there will bet two resurrections: One of the righteous and one of unrighteous. One of faithful and one who committed vile things to be judged in the next system.

The Bible does acknowledge individuals around the world who never had a chance to know God and Christ. That's where the second resurrection comes in up above. The unrighteous resurrection will be for bad people who acted out of ignorance, mental illness, isolation, social and political engineering, etc. This includes people from times and eras where God did not reveal himself to them. They will be brought back to life in the next system of Earth where no evil and no devil exist anymore. THEY will be judged under that system. If they can change they can stay, if they refuse they go back to eternal oblivion(SECOND DEATH.)

It's not God who burns people, it's the demons.

I suppose I mean more particularly that I fear the suffering associated with death and dying.

Eat the fruit and kiss the snake at night

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Not possible because humans go into oblivion after death. Understandable but what most people fear is never knowing WHEN they are going to die, WHAT they are going to die of and the REGRET that they never experienced life to the fullest.

But once again, you have the resurrection. You can live again.

Fire is a rapid oxidation reaction where heat causes an oxidizer to take an electron from a compound donating electrons. What is the oxidizer in hell if it's spiritual?

Answered

I already understand these things. I just wonder why people think "hell" is an eternal fire, and the reason they do is because 1st and 2nd degree burns(the most common types) are among the most painful injuries humans suffer. Ironically the more severe burns are less painful because the nerves are outright destroyed. But humans are terrified of burns because they feel them, so the idea of the worst punishment imaginable would be burning. But that wouldn't even happen in a metaphysical/spiritual place because there's no chemistry in the spiritual realm. In the spiritual realm, there is generall no body sensation at all. It's completely conscience-based. People that think burning is bad have never met the true nature of terror.

Good and useful reply though, and thanks for helping inform people.

You're absolutely correct. In fact, I thought of your very same scenario years ago. How can fire burn something immaterial? Something with no matter? That's impossible. I asked this to some protty years ago. The only excuse they could come up that's it's "a special fire" that torments the soul. The problem is that idea is not in the Bible. So they shut up afterwards.

The idea of hell only works on the dumb, uneducated and grudgeful.

Well hell does exist, but it's a mental state of confusion, fear, chaos, depression, etc. It is torture for delving into evils and not having mental fortitude. I'd say any dopefiend suffering on the streets is in a hellish nightmare. No fire needed.

The wrath of God.

The Prophets

1. Prophet Adam
Revelation: Considered the first prophet; no specific scripture is named.
Message: Tawhid (oneness of God), obedience, and moral responsibility.

2. Prophet Idris (Enoch)
Revelation: Some Islamic scholars believe he received early scriptures, but no specific text survives.
Message: Piety and patience.

3. Prophet Nuh (Noah)
Revelation: No named scripture, but he preached monotheism and warned of the flood.
Message: Repentance, worship of one God, and moral reform.

4. Prophet Ibrahim (Abraham)
Revelation: Suhuf Ibrahim (Scrolls of Abraham) – mentioned in the Qur’an (87:18–19).
Message: Absolute monotheism, submission to God, and spiritual purification.

5. Prophet Musa (Moses)
Revelation: Tawrat (Torah) – a major scripture.
Message: Law, guidance for the Israelites, ethical living, and worship of one God.

6. Prophet Dawud (David)
Revelation: Zabur (Psalms) – a book of praises and prayers.
Message: Devotion, praise of God, and spiritual reflection.

7. Prophet ‘Isa (Jesus)
Revelation: Injil (Gospel) – believed to have been a divine message distinct from the current canonical Gospels.
Message: Love, mercy, monotheism, and spiritual renewal.

Common Themes Across All Revelations:
Tawhid (Monotheism): Worship of the one, true God.
Akhlaq (Ethics): Morality, justice, compassion, and responsibility.
Accountability: Belief in the Day of Judgment and human accountability.
Guidance for Living: Laws, stories, and spiritual principles for individuals and societies.

luke 23:34

can you blame a man for taking what hes been giving and making best with that?

the best killer on earth only became that way because of the world around the abilty to do so and the establised ways that infunced that spesific direction

do they care

do they regret

does it even effect them

father forgive for we are all stupid fucking puppets to this game of life and only morons that give new life should be smacked hard for allowing this abomination to continue

That's only while you are alive. When you die you are permanently unconscious. Oblivion, nothingness

When you die you are permanently unconscious. Oblivion, nothingness

Shush kike that view is so retarded and I'm sure you believe it. We live in a simulation that renders itself only when under observation.
All nature and the universe perfectly interwoven and connected.
And you're telling me the point of humanity here is to observe all this, learn, grow, mature, and then blink into a state of non existence.
Like we never existed at all.
You just took the point away from life and everything. If the road ends in non existence like we never existed at all, what the fucking point of a dream you don't remember?
I think you can do a little better and be a little more spiritual than that.

Hehe gottem

That's what the Bible teaches