Dark matter edition
have theory of gravity and inertia
it just works (mostly)
observe distant galaxies
it don't work...
"Is the model out of touch? No, it's the universe that's wrong."
invent dark matter
add exactly enough to make the model work again
85% of all mass in existence is now imaginary
declare dark mater is undetectable
don't have to prove it, cause it's impossible
no one can disprove it, cause it's impossible
I FUCKING LOVE SCIENCE
Yeah. Dark matter/dark energy is not a scientific hypothesis.
They went through the entire zoo of particles in the standard theory, and there's nothing that can be "dark matter".
You know why they're pushing dark shit? Because the real physics is dangerous.
It's just like how they told you cold fusion is nuts. Dangerous as fuck.
Classic is my wife, who can't even do math, saying "You have all those physics degrees and you don't believe in man made global warming!? what's wrong with you?!"
Well, I know chemistry so Anthropogenic global warming is bullshit. And I've studied Svensmarks theory. And AGW isn't even a scientific hypothesis.
Can't be cured. why? They believe they're saving the planet. So fucking noble!
Yes I am sure you know more than thousands of people who dedicate their life to the subject. Next explain to me problems with other scientific fields I’m sure you are also an expert on.
Checked.
They just need $100 billion more to build a bigger collider, then they'll get the answers they promised last time, and the time before. And if not? Well, the collider still wasn't big enough. It's a good grift.
Climate scientists wish they had the clout to do the same.
"The models are 100% accurate, but dark matter is absorbing the exact amount of heat that causes the discrepancy between the climate model and temperature measurements"
Trust the science. If it doesn't make sense, you're not believing hard enough.
>declare dark mater is undetectable
at this point, you're in the religion zone
based Anon
is that was
This is an attempt to trick the jannies into allowing a flat earth/moon hoax thread
His discord buddies will be here soon to derail it
OP knows what he's doing
Galaxy Rotation Curves
Stars in galaxies orbit at roughly constant speeds even far from the center, where there isn't enough visible matter to explain this. The flat rotation curves suggest an unseen mass, dark matter, surrounding galaxies in a "halo."
Gravitational Lensing
Light from distant objects is bent by gravity as it passes massive objects (per General Relativity). The amount of bending often exceeds what can be attributed to visible matter alone, implying extra, invisible mass.
Cosmic Microwave Background
Precision measurements of the CMB (from the Planck and WMAP satellites) show patterns in temperature fluctuations that match models requiring dark matter to explain the structure and distribution of matter in the early universe.
Large-Scale Structure Formation
The distribution of galaxies and galaxy clusters across the universe fits simulations that include dark matter. Without it, structures would have taken too long to form.
Galaxy Cluster Dynamics
The velocities of galaxies within clusters (noted by Fritz Zwicky in the 1930s) suggest much more mass than what we see. Clusters also show similar discrepancies in gravitational lensing and hot gas distributions (like in the Bullet Cluster).
Bullet Cluster Observations
In this famous collision of two galaxy clusters, most visible matter (hot gas) was separated from the inferred gravitational mass, which stayed with the dark matter, providing strong evidence that dark matter is a distinct form of mass, not just a misinterpretation of gravity.
These observations consistently suggest the presence of an unknown, non-luminous form of matter, dark matter, constituting about 27% of the universe’s total mass-energy.
tl;dr: You're retarded & don't know what you're talking about.
That being said, yes, science should be viewed skeptically, that's how over time it gains consensus. Don't confuse the very concept of science with the corrupt shit humans do with it. COVID really did a number on people.
Environmental sciences is a huge grift, but I think dark matter and particle physics and string theory bullshit is more egregious.
Both waste money, but sham physics wastes bright minds. Environmental departments are full of midwits that can't even do math, we're not missing out on any scientific progress or breakthroughs by having them waste their time.
Bullshit physics is like the fraudulent Alzheimer research, it's setting back potential progress.
waste money
Hardly any, compared to applied physics their funding is negligible. The majority of physics PHD holders will die in abject poverty.
it's setting back potential progress
No, it isn't.
These observations consistently suggest the presence of an unknown, non-luminous form of matter, dark matter, constituting about 27% of the universe’s total mass-energy.
That or the blasphemous notion that some of the assumptions built into our model of gravity are incorrect.
When the spinning ball-Earth is finally exposed worldwide for the 400+ year deception it was, Earth's entire population will suddenly be faced with the reality that every government, every space agency, university, secret society, religious organization, mainstream and alternative media outlet have ALL been duplicitous in propping up a monstrous manipulation to fleece and control the masses. The resulting mass mental exodus away from the control system is exactly what humanity needs. Once the flat Earth truth gets out, these lying politicians, spokesmen, reporters and teachers suddenly change from being heralded voices of authority to being ridiculed, shunned and denounced as they deserve. Once the flat Earth truth gets out, these governments, universities, media outlets and other entangled organizations which have long been hard at work weaving this multi-generational ball-Earth myth, suddenly and completely lose all credibility. Once the truth of our flat Earth gets out, so does the truth of these few elite families/societies who have kept this most important and fundamental reality from us for these hundreds of years! Essentially, once the flat Earth truth gets out, so does every other important truth by proxy, because this "mother-of-all-conspiracies" holds under its umbrella literally ALL of the other conspiracies, and exposes them.
Accept that is something physicists also consider, it’s called modified gravity.
blasphemous notion that some of the assumptions built into our model of gravity are incorrect
This doesn't account for of the observations made. There are aspects of this that we have down with such certainty, like gravitational constants, that there MUST be something there to account for the disruptions. Mere misculations would not produce the observations being recorded. Like I said, you're retarded. You're trying to say "the math is just wrong," ignoring that there is in fact evidence there is something there. This is, in its simpliest form, to you, an algebra problem with missing factors.
You dont know anything about dark matter you fucking retard.
It does exist go to your nearest popeyes
Reminder that "geniuses" like Einstein are rare and most scientists are midwits with a degree, who work for a paycheck
Most scientific "studies", demanded by the "WHERE IS YOUR SOURCE" debaters, can't even be replicated. It's called the replication crisis.
Hardly any, compared to applied physics their funding is negligible.
Tens of billions are spent on colliders for particle physics.
What have they produced to show for it over the decades?
Forget practical technological applications that most scientific discoveries lead to, there's not any expectation for commercial applications even if they got all their answers.
Have they even produced any answers? Every time they say "this will be the collider that generates the particle we're looking for!", and when it doesn't, they say the same thing about the next bigger collider.
Exactly. While this is true, it doesn't invalidate 'science' itself. Just means humans suck at it and there are a lot of shitty scientists.
Yeah, that's reasonable.
Science is great. Worshipping science like a religion, instead of using it as a tool to understand the world, is not.
Yeah, this was always a problem for me back when I studied physics. Sure, most of what I learned is replicable even to a layman, like Newtonian mechanics, thermodynamics or electromagnetism, but the more esoteric, yet fundamental parts of cosmology like dark matter and energy really just boiled down to "trust us, goy". Physics are really based overall, but it really seems like nothing in academia or even science is immune to faith-based beliefs in narratives.
Have they even produced any answers?
Yes
Antiparticles (Positron)
Discovery: Positron (antielectron)
Collider/Method: Cosmic rays and early accelerators (1932, later confirmed in colliders)
Significance: Proved the existence of antimatter.
Quarks (Confirmation of Parton Model)
Collider: Stanford Linear Accelerator Center (SLAC), USA
Discovery: Evidence for quarks via deep inelastic scattering (late 1960s)
Significance: Confirmed that protons and neutrons are made of quarks.
J/ψ Particle (Charm Quark)
Collider: Brookhaven National Lab and SLAC
Year: 1974
Significance: Discovery of the charm quark, key to validating the Standard Model.
W and Z Bosons
Collider: Super Proton Synchrotron (SPS), CERN
Year: 1983
Significance: Carriers of the weak force; their discovery confirmed electroweak unification.
Top Quark
Collider: Tevatron, Fermilab
Year: 1995
Significance: Last of the six predicted quarks; completed the quark sector of the Standard Model.
Higgs Boson
Collider: Large Hadron Collider (LHC), CERN
Year: 2012
Significance: Explains how particles acquire mass; a monumental confirmation of the Standard Model.
CP Violation (Matter-Antimatter Asymmetry)
Collider: Several including CERN’s LEP and B-factories (BaBar at SLAC, Belle in Japan)
Significance: Helps explain why the universe is dominated by matter over antimatter.
Gluon (Carrier of the Strong Force)
Collider: PETRA at DESY, Germany
Year: Late 1970s
Significance: Confirmed quantum chromodynamics (QCD), the theory of the strong force.
tl;dr: Still a know-nothing retard.
Who doesn't like public health?
Proved the existence of antimatter.
naturally occurring antimatter?
Dark matter definitely exists and isn't part of gravity. It isn't undetectable, it just doesn't interact with light hardly at all. There are many people actively working to prove it and there are many people pushing alternate hypotheses that seek to disprove it. Those alternates (like MOND) are very weak because they break far more things than they fix and fail to explain already observed phenomena. Also, if dark matter isn't real and just an artifact of gravity models being wrong, then it should be impossible to separate dark matter from normal matter. However, we have directly observed the opposite. We've observed some small dwarf galaxies that were stripped of their dark matter. We've also seen two galaxies colliding where the dark matter (picrel, the blue areas are gravity) continues moving while the gas (pink in picrel) smacks together and is left behind.
Really, every person who whines about "scientism" just seems like they're utterly illiterate about what is being claimed or what is actually going on in the world around them. Your post is a good illustration of that. Just a moron thrashing around yelling "I don't understand it so it isn't true" when they never took even the slightest effort to try and understand. You don't need a physics PhD to get this, the average layman can understand the concept.
Yes?
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This is the first detection of a positron, in a cloud chamber 2 August 1932
Positrons are produced naturally in β+ decays of naturally occurring radioactive isotopes (for example, potassium-40) and in interactions of gamma quanta (emitted by radioactive nuclei) with matter
Just because the instance of anti-matter detected for the test was man-made doesn't mean anti-matter isn't naturally occuring retard.
Then you'd have no trouble presenting evidence of naturally occurring antimatter.
evidence of naturally occurring antimatter.
Look right above his post
I expect you will say "that's not evidence" and move the goalposts even further
science will be defeated by ALLAH the people that abuse power will be defeated by power and there will be a stone against the dunya
Impossible, according to science, antimatter coming into contact with matter produces so much energy it dwarfs a nuclear bomb. How do you reconcile that?
its about pocketing the endless grant money available to find something that doesn't exist
This isn't your ah-Ha gotcha moment lol. It is produced through several well understood physical processes that happen in the universe.
Particle-Antiparticle Creation
According to the laws of quantum physics, especially through Einstein’s equation , energy can transform into mass. When high-energy processes occur, such as cosmic ray collisions or nuclear reactions, energy can be converted into particles and their corresponding antiparticles. This is called pair production. For examole, a high-energy photon (gamma ray) interacting with a nucleus can produce an electron and a positron (its antimatter counterpart).
Cosmic Rays
Cosmic rays (high-energy particles from space) regularly strike atoms in Earth's atmosphere, creating showers of particles. These reactions often produce antimatter particles like positrons and antiprotons.
Radioactive Decay
Some radioactive isotopes naturally produce antimatter. For example, potassium-40 decay occasionally emits a positron.
Processes in Stars and Black Holes
Extreme astrophysical environments, such as supernovae, neutron stars, and near black holes, have intense magnetic fields and high energies that facilitate the creation of antimatter.
Matter-Antimatter Symmetry in Physics
The fundamental laws of physics predict that for every particle, there’s an antimatter partner. This symmetry implies that antimatter must be naturally generated under certain conditions, just like regular matter.
Also this.
according to science, antimatter coming into contact with matter produces so much energy it dwarfs a nuclear bomb
You can easily find this out, and it's not even remotely true for the amount of antimatter that we can generate
For reference, 1 MeV = 1.6e-22 Joules
yes I'm sure you know more than
have you ever noticed recently that every gaylord opinion seems to start with this statement. A total outsourcing of opinion to authoritative voices. No need for putting pressure on yourself when you can say that there's a study that you've never read let alone understood
Because of scale dipshit. Yes, that's true, and because anti-matter is so rare and is instantly unmade, it doesn't accumulate. Fucking arguing with retards is exhausting.
I can never tell if they are
a) legitimately retarded
b) trolling
c) have only ever been exposed to science through horseshit "journalism" that makes claims like the "antimatter = nuclear bomb" stuff
my wife, who can't even do math, saying "You have all those physics degrees and you don't believe in man made global warming!? what's wrong with you?!"
Probably the funniest/best post all week.
You're missing the mark and demonstrate it here
There are aspects of this that we have down with such certainty, like gravitational constants
You treat these constants as infallible, and declare we understand to a certainty. Constants are seemingly arbitrary numbers that we can't explain but use them because they just work. They're the result of lack of certainty and inability to explain things in more fundamental terms. They're a crutch and we should strive to explain and eliminate them.
When theory doesn't match observation, it's not an ideal solution to invent a variable that you can set to whatever number you want to make it match.
science being attacked by leftists
But a positron or an antiproton aren't antimatter, they are just particles. Antimatter specifically should in theory consist of antiatoms, which can't exist naturally, since they would have to exist in a universe that consists of matter, and when in contact with it would cause annihilation. Thus why the only instance of an antiatom was man made in a accelerator using magnets to separate them. Also since our universe is made of matter and supposedly the big bang created equal amounts of matter and antimatter, how do you explain the complete absence of naturally occurring antimatter?
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But a positron or an antiproton aren't antimatter
Ok, no more (You)s from me
I hope this turns into a flat earth thread, because fuck this board
dumb nigger come down to the ground
muh heckin create mini unverses using le antimatter!
Yeah, I'm gonna need a TL;DR summary on that one, familia. It's friday, I ain't reading all that shit.
This is patently false & utterly retarded. You're literally making shit up because you know nothing.
Empirical Basis of Constants
Fundamental constants like the gravitational constant are not arbitrarily chosen, they’re measured through precise, repeatable experiments. They reflect physical reality, not theoretical convenience.
Predictive and Theoretical Necessity
Constants are essential to the structure and accuracy of physical theories. Their values aren't adjustable at will; altering them would break the predictive power and consistency of models like Newtonian gravity and General Relativity.
Known Values
While we may not yet know why a constant has its specific value, its empirical validity stands. Future theories might explain it, but its current use is based on accurate measurement, not guesswork.
Scientific Refinement
Adjusting models to fit data, including refining constants, is standard scientific practice. It's about improving accuracy, not inventing results. Today's constants are the product of rigorous refinement and have proven predictive success.
But a positron or an antiproton aren't antimatter, they are just particles. Antimatter specifically should in theory consist of antiatoms
Holy fuck you're retarded. You haven't the faintest clue what the word "antimatter" even means.
My absolute favorite thing to run into in my fellow man.
Yeah I know what you mean, it's difficult to think people are this stupid. It's either a troll or some sort of willful ignorance fueled by some kind of bullshit ideology. But given this is Anon Babble, troll is equally likely. Not that it matters since in practice they're identical.
Irked me with how unscientific and unsatisfying, yet unquestioned it is. Expected physics to be the most pure and rational and least politicized field.
Guess math is the only field where you can't get away with bullshitting.
Dark matter is literally just diffuse (like neutrinos and smaller) wafts of normal matter held together in regular gravitational orbitals
Source: this was revealed to me in a dream
Again, you're just utterly illiterate about what the claims are. If you had a whole bunch of antimatter annhilate at once, then yeah, there would be a big boom. A single positron annihilating only makes about 511 MeV. That's 8x10^-11 joules. That's just enough energy to make just two photons. To blow up a city, you'd need massive amounts, which is basically impossible.
Why are you so illiterate? This stuff is super easy to find and understand.
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Gee, seems like all the important discoveries were made decades ago. Higgs Boson is the only noteworthy thing in the last 30 years? In spite devoting more resource than ever?
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