Wife

feminism and slut behaviour has ruined generations of people

Men are convinced that they should, and women are convinced that they should compete against men and act like them and be independent, like you say. It's divide and conquer. But it's not just women who are to blame. Men have some work to do on their moral compass too.

b-b-but the men!

femislut/cuckold numale moment

Not only is it incredibly similar to cheating, you're also perpetuating, supporting, and/or participating in the enslavement of women

Men and women are not the same, and therefore should not try to be the same. Women should not sleep around. I hope this explains my position more clearly.

Not only is it incredibly similar to cheating

in what way is having sex with other men, potentially contracting stds similar to watching others have sex on the screen?

you're also perpetuating, supporting, and/or participating in the enslavement of women

nigger they do it willingly for money

like why the fuck do i have to put the charm on, go on dates, pay for shit, be fucking perfect or she gets le “ick”, when some asshole just happened to be “hot” enough for her to fuck on a one night stand?
say then you’re in a relationship for a year or two, the sex dries up, she turns your advances down more often, but she fucked mr hot guy and didnt bother learning his name. now you’re the dope having to do a monkey dance to get laid. fuck that. women have it so fucking easy.

porn is cheating

actual retard.

By the way, if all the manual labor and fighting is done by the slaves and peasants, why shouldn't women go into business, sciences, or the arts? Our children are raised by strangers in school, anyhow, the cooking is done by factories and restaurants, the cleaning done by servants. She will need to take time off every now and again, when she's pregnant, and to recover from pregnancy, which will affect her career trajectory significantly... But how many children do you really need, if you live in the upper class, in the First World?...

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It's mentally cheating. Infidelity. Lusting after other women. Desiring them. Wanting them. Needing more women than one's wife.

Being a slut is worse, on some level. But don't act like all men are the salt of the earth and perfect and it's all women's fault. As I said, it's also hard to blame men, since we are psyopted into watching porn.

they do it willingly for money

Most of the porn industry is women who have been abused, or have few other choices in life, because of economic circumstances or whatever else. Similar to prostitution. It's an industry of pain and trauma. And a lot of the women are literal slaves, and quite a few end up murdered.

Women have work to do on their moral compass too. The point is that all men are not perfect, and the failure of relationships is not just because of feminism and slutism.

But how many children do you really need, if you live in the upper class, in the First World?...

This is kind of a weak point

why the fuck do i have to put the charm on, go on dates, pay for shit

Chivarly

one night stand with bad boy

Not the woman for you

The sex dries up

You have to do the monkey dance to get laid

Skill issue

One night stands are less fulfilling than sex based on love and a deep relationship, based on trust and cultivated over the course of a lifetime. Much less fulfilling.

It's mentally cheating.

that's like saying that a woman is cheating on you because she sometimes thinks about her high school crush. watching porn isn't cheating because there's no act, no two-sided connection between people.

Most of the porn industry is women who have been abused, or have few other choices in life, because of economic circumstances or whatever else.

I don't care. I watch hentai almost exclusively anyway.
I won't even address the women le shouldn't work because I never said I'm against them working.

But how many children do you really need, if you live in the upper class, in the First World?...

At least 3 to be a net positive

Pay for shit

You can't put a price on love. If she will turn you down because you won't waste money you don't have on a fancy restaurant, then she's not the right woman for you.

Some women want to be rich, and expect that from their husband. Being rich does offer one a certain level of protection in life. But it has its drawbacks. Depends what kind of life you want. A cottage in the countryside, or a robotic space yacht?

Slipping up now and again and lusting after other people means that she's not attracted to you, for whatever reason. Imagining having sex with another person, actively, not trying to stop it, while having sex with your husband is basically cheating. Not reflecting on why you're feeling attraction to others, not trying to communicate with your wife and address the issue and move past it and mature, is part of the problem. The point is fidelity (look up what this means). One women, and no others. If you really love her, and she loves you, there should be no need to worry.

Shakespeare said the course of true love never did run smooth. I don't know if I agree that it has to be that way. Sounds like a cultural psyop.

Hentai is better than real porn, since there's a lower chance that a woman had to be hurt in order to make it. But it's still bad. And if you're watching it while you're in a relationship with another woman, that's very bad.

I haven't jerked it to porn in a while. I haven't sought it out, although I admit I have expanded some thumbnails when I didn't really need to. It's wrong, and I should stop.

chivalry he says
yeah okay man, you do you. just dont come back crying when you get fucking nothing

I think 55% of marriages are successful. I thought that modern society and feminism and degeneracy are what is to blame for failed marriages. Whereas chilvalry, protection, respect for your woman, traditional values, is what led to a much higher rate of success.

You're going to sit there and not even try, huh? Because your culture has had a lot of failures. You're going to focus on that, to the exclusion of the successes, and blame everyone but men, and yourself, as causing all marriages to fail.

I'm going to try my best to make it work, and I believe it can work. And if it doesn't, well, at least I tried my best. But why leave your front door, if there's a chance that you will fail? Just lay in bed all day until you die because life is hard and people are complicated and no one is perfect.

but where are you now personally in your life? why do you feel the need to “make it work”? why? why do YOU have to do that? the reason i gave up is because i got a taste of it after being a fat quiet loser in my teens. i put the effort in. i’ve been in relationships for years, i’ve lost 40kg of fat and packed on muscle and still have abs to this day. i’ve always been more reserved so i worked on being social. i’ve flattened rooms with a dumb one liner. i’ve pulled girls on nights out with ease. i have platonic girl friends. i’ve wined and dined, i dont expect sex after every interaction. i’m not some basement dwelling dude that gets his life experience from twitter screen caps only. i’ve been there and it disgusted me. i know a 25 year old bona fide virgin girl - she’s legit autistic and simple wont settle for less than someone who’s like 20yo zach effron. she’s had guys who damn near look like the gigachad meme throw themselves at her.
i understand if you’ve recently found a good woman and she’s amazing and you now think hey all women aint so bad, and if you did good for you man seriously, but a vast majority of men who dont fit the “incel” archetype, who put the effort in, work, have money, are charismatic, STILL get passed over by mid tier daddy’s money whores just because they aren’t 26yo brad pitt with the same sway being a millionaire actor does.

I'm back, sorry, one minute

like man i’ve had a girl tell me to fuck off for being “too clingy” after simply checking up via text the day after a hookup. bitch your nose was on my pubic hair last night. i want to also talk to you and not treat you like fuck meat. that’s someone’s future gf or wife!! that’s fucking disgusting.

but where are you now personally in your life?

In a bad spot due to family issues, although I've been keeping busy and I am nearing the end of the tunnel.

why do you feel the need to “make it work”? why? why do YOU have to do that?

Friendship and family are the most important things in life. Work, career, art, etc., "the world," come second... Or at least, one's Ego should come second. Is life really worth living if you have no family or friends? Maybe some people want to be a real hermit and can find fulfillment... But people, society, improving the world, changing the minds of people around you for the better, seems to be the point of life...

It's not just about me bearing the burden of a relationship. She has to pull her weight too, obviously. But that doesn't mean she is undeserving of respect. Men are stronger, possibly smarter at mechanical things, we certainly have more cultural experience with it, and physical strength and labor is tied up with building things. And combat and protection is chiefly a man's role, and should be. Until we are all sexless cyborgs with just flesh brains, but even then, there still might be some difference between men and women...

the reason i gave up is because i got a taste of it after being a fat quiet loser in my teens. i put the effort in. i’ve been in relationships for years, i’ve lost 40kg of fat and packed on muscle and still have abs to this day. i’ve always been more reserved so i worked on being social. i’ve flattened rooms with a dumb one liner. i’ve pulled girls on nights out with ease. i have platonic girl friends. i’ve wined and dined, i dont expect sex after every interaction. i’m not some basement dwelling dude that gets his life experience from twitter screen caps only. i’ve been there and it disgusted me.

Here I am, confident in my values, optimistic about life, skeptical of the doomer and Ultra-Right echo-chamber here; while you are a doomer, painting with a broad brush...

I'm sorry to hear that you've had so many issues, but perhaps it has something to do with taking the echo-chamber here too seriously.

i know a 25 year old bona fide virgin girl - she’s legit autistic and simple wont settle for less than someone who’s like 20yo zach effron. she’s had guys who damn near look like the gigachad meme throw themselves at her.

Sounds like she has some psyche-searching to do too. All that glitters is not gold. She wants gigachad, and won't settle. She wants wealth, fame, and to live in a high position in society, based on physical appearance.

Well, you have some personality, do you have looks historically associated with wealth? Are you, yourself, well-off?

The king is always watching his back, afraid someone will poison him. It's in the name: utopia means "no place." Yet, not every path is the same. If you want to prioritize wealth and status, that's one type of life. And honestly, that doesn't have to be inherently wrong, either. Some people want the protection and pleasure that comes with wealth and status, and don't mind not being able to go to Wal-Mart. It comes down to choice. What kind of life do you want?

There's a scene in 1984, where the two factory workers are looking down at the peasant woman, doing her laundry outside, and they remark that her simple life is, in some ways, superior to theirs. She wants nothing more than love and friendship.

Maybe while you're chasing art, career, ego, starting wars, you're spending less time with friends and family. Maybe you think you're doing the right thing, trying to improve the world, by spending so much time focused on others, rather than yourself, or just screwing around with people you like.

I think the path through these weeds is that there has to be an agreement of what path you want to walk, between husband and wife. And some paths require time and energy to traverse, and if you're halfway down one path, while she's halfway down a different path, you're going to have to start at square one, and maybe it would be better for you to both find someone else...

You get to choose what kind of life you want. If this woman in front of you doesn't want to go down the path you do, then it's going to be difficult. It helps to be a match with your lady on some level. I mean, my last gf was a pop culturite, and it was difficult. But we could have made it work. Although I was dealing with a lot, and she didn't want to wait any longer for me.

you say echo chamber, i say my real life experience and observation of peers.
are you currently married? you seem like a good person that has positivity, but im sorry. that positive mind set is just in your head. life doesnt care about that.

i understand if you’ve recently found a good woman and she’s amazing and you now think hey all women aint so bad, and if you did good for you man seriously, but a vast majority of men who dont fit the “incel” archetype, who put the effort in, work, have money, are charismatic, STILL get passed over by mid tier daddy’s money whores just because they aren’t 26yo brad pitt with the same sway being a millionaire actor does.

My last gf was years ago. Relationships can work. Our society has a lot of problems. Money can't buy love.

It sounds like, on some level, you want perfection, too. You are chasing after a utopia. But every path has its difficulties. Okay, you go for another woman, who doesn't have the same looks, as the 25yo virgin whose looks are on par with those who are historically wealthy and powerful, who will settle for nothing less than Brad Pitt. Maybe you don't want a life of having to be nice to rich people at dinner parties. Maybe you do. It's up to you. So start getting rich if that's what you want.

Life is hard, people are hard, but no matter your circumstance, you can be happy with the right attitude. Which is not to say that all lifestyles are the same. Being rich means you need to move money around, and you're not learning a trade or a craft, or being a warrior.

Life is hard, and pain and hardship will come your way, no matter what path you walk. Maybe you can live a life free of most pain and hardship... Idk what happened with that one lady. I'd recommend not to get into bed with someone, until you're ready to have children. You don't want a drop of your love juice to get anywhere near the clam hole, or you might have a little man starting to grow in your lady friend...

Fall down 9 times, stand up 10. A thousand-mile journey starts with one step. It's not the height of the mountain that makes it difficult to climb, it's the pebble in your shoe. If you're not having fun, you're doing something wrong.

Is the potato chip bag half-full or half-empty? Are you getting all in a huff because Shekelstein Goldberg emptied it halfway, and it's filled with air; or are you happy to have the ability to eat potato chips at all, considering how so many people in the world have nothing to eat? The bag is half-full! It can be if you want it to be.

or i can just decide to not waste money on shekelstein brand chips just to try convince myself i at least got half a bag. i am glad you are content mentally but do recognise that saying “well, i guess it’s half full!” when some other cunt drank half your water doesnt change the fact that you got fucked over.

i dunno man, fact of the matter is shit is stacked against men in the dating game and that’s a cold hard fact. humiliation ritual at this point. even the mythical gigachad type character deals with bullshit and rejections. women can just show up anywhere and some dickhead will simp for her.

What good fortune it is to have water to drink. Surely there is one woman in the world who can be trusted to be decent, and you can have a successful marriage and family life with her.

Not every person is identical, not all paths are identical. But they are all the same in that they all have their difficulties, as well as pleasures. They all can be walked more or less successfully.

1+1=2 and the sun will probably rise tomorrow. If you want to chase wealth, then go for it. You can be a good king, and be charitable to the poor, or you can be a bad king, and torture and spread degeneracy.

Is the enemy without or within? Is the problem that your wife drank half the water, or is the problem that you're getting angry about it, because you wanted to drink the whole thing? ...

Like I said, you can be a hermit, and have a fulfilling life if you want. Get clear on your goal and reason for walking that path. But don't walk it because past failures and a doomer echo chamber have convinced you it's not worth even trying to walk the beaten path.

I'm a skeptic, but not a relativist. The slave has the ability to get even with his master, for wronging him, after all. So be a charitable king, or a serf with a good attitude. It's up to you. Just stay away from bad people, and stay out of excessive pain. 1+1=2.

70+ studies have found that watching porn decreases relationship and marital satisfaction, feelings of romance, feelings of love for partner, risk of divorce

Studies overwhelmingly find that WMAF (white male asian female) couples are the happiest of all racial and interracial pariings. For example korean female, american male marriages only have an 18% divorce rate, which is lower than all western countries and lower than the domestic divorce rate in korea itself.

My takeaway is that the secret to a long lasting happy marriage is to not watch porn and not marry a white woman

no one should sleep around, sex without love is degenerate

i dunno man, fact of the matter is shit is stacked against men in the dating game and that’s a cold hard fact

This is the problem of Madam Bovary. Her husband is kind of dumb, but he loves her. She elopes with dark, handsome strangers who use her and then dump her. It's not always black and white, though. There are some handsome strangers who are good people. All that glitters is not gold, but some things that glitter are.

even the mythical gigachad type character deals with bullshit and rejections

Right. I remember Jim Carrey on Letterman or something, saying how when you're rich, everyone laughs when you say you have an emotional or social problem. "Well just dry your tears will hundred-dollar bills, then!"

1+1 is not 3.

We all grew up, thinking that wealth and fame were the answer. Look at what happened to all those YouTubers, who are now trapped in their fame, like a zoo?

I personally take the middle path. I get my hands dirty and try to hurt others and nature as little as I can. But I also recognize that it's not "wrong" to buy a gun, that might have been made with steel mined by Congolese slaves, in order to protect my family from gangsters that the corrupt politicans allowed to come in the front door. Greed and idleness tend to backfire on one, eventually. Although some sages say that maybe the right thing is to do nothing. That it's not up to you to save the world. Relax, and let things work themselves out. But it's hard to have a family if you don't protect them on some level. I'm not going to sit there while my daughter is kidnapped in front of me, because "violence is wrong."

Cope

Isn't genetic diversity necessary to prevent retardation? Aren't the most powerful cultures those that traded with and learned from other cultures?

yeah, no, you can't have a loving relationship after banging a bunch of nasty normie women you don't even like. doesn't work that way, permanently damages your pair bonding abilities and alters your sexual template.

Let he who is without sin throw the first stone. We've all bullied someone. We're all using slave-made technology. The question is, how do you proceed? Do you recognize that what you did was wrong, and are trying to do better? Sure, the chance that a woman will cheat on you if she's had multiple partners is probably higher, but being a virgin is no guarantee. It makes sense that a virgin marry a virgin, and a slut marry a stud. But there are usually exceptions to the rule.

you seem like a good guy anon, sorry i called you names

It has nothing to do with being a virgin, I don't give a shit about that. It has to do with your state of mind and your bonding patterns. If you're trying to bang women at a bar or on tinder you have to develop darker/lower-level personality traits in order to attract that kind of girl (they're generally attracted to guys who are kind of assholes, not showing too much sensitivity, not too nice, etc.) You're also conditioning yourself to enjoy sex that is loveless and unemotional. This is going to leave you unfit in a loving relationship, you will struggle to bond or love in the way you otherwise might have.

what the fuck is your point?

why don't you idiots try having a decent relationship of your own instead of doing whatever you're doing here

I'm not perfect, I've done some bad things in the past, and I've been through a lot of pain... But I still try to do my best, every day. Some days are worse than others. Some days, the people around me make me feel like there's no hope. But I keep moving forward, a bit every day... Like I said, here I am, using slave-made technology. But I try not to eat non-Organic meat, because of the way the animals are treated. Some might call this slave morality. The master thinks what is good is being rich, attractive, powerful, strong, educated. The slave can't have these things and develops an inverted morality, where kindness, charitability, patience, etc. are superior. What does it matter if I crush a million insects when building my castle? If I don't protect myself, my woman will leave me for someone else! And I have to protect my children and her, to be sure! And I give to the poor! I'm doing the best I can!

My keyboard stopped working. I think the name of the game is don't worry so much and just find someone who is similar to you. Be confident, communicate issues with her when they come up, try to do the right thing and be mature. Maybe she doesn't even have to be that similar. An intellectual doesn't have to marry another intellectual. She can do things with her friends, you can have your philosophy circle with yours. Although it is harder when the difference is greater. And there are some things I simply can't agree with... Like a circumcision, and associated cultures... I mean, you can be Jewish Christian or Muslim and not do that specifically... But you won't be allowed in the inner sanctum. I don't care what the Evil Magicians are doing, and I don't want to be a part of it. Although I recognize that it might be worth it to infiltrate such an organization to try to stop what evil is occurring. You will have to do some really bad things, but maybe it will be for the best in the end... Or just kick back, relax, and "do the right thing" as much as you can.

My metamorphosis is almost complete. once I exit my cocoon I will be ready for a relationship.

My keyboard stopped working. I think the name of the game is don't worry so much and just find someone who is similar to you. Be confident, communicate issues with her when they come up, try to do the right thing and be mature. Maybe she doesn't even have to be that similar. An intellectual doesn't have to marry another intellectual. She can do things with her friends, you can have your philosophy circle with yours. Although it is harder when the difference is greater.

rip. I thought Ireland might have been a little better in regards to this type of shit, but sounds like its even worse than other western countries. sucks to hear that eire anon